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The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Re: The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Post by Inate_Hikkers »

bserge wrote: post #130
Inate_Hikkers wrote: post #129

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It's probably more genetic; I know a family that lived to about the same age (late 80s, early 90s) but they suffer from dementia at around the 70s. (I'm the guy from reddit, I noticed your account got suspended and reverse searched your username)

You'd have to be more specific, but yeah, amazing, isn't it. God forbid you share something real, we don't do that now. All about that money and happy people probably pay more. Very good, greed is a big part of any downfall. Not like I was complaining much, I had my own subreddit with exactly one post lol. It's fine though, such a society is bound to go to shit soon enough. If I live, I will buy drugs illegally, I wi…

I've always wondered what it felt like to live in the fall of civilizations and what could have been done to prevent it. For instance, the Emperor of Qing Dynasty China wanted to industrialize and modernize, but instead his bureaucrats diverted funds meant for modernizing the Navy into building another summer palace. Then that summer palace burned down during a war with Britain.

Well guess fucking what, I'm living in a failed state.

Re: The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Post by faeyanpiraat »

rafaelero wrote: post #109
faeyanpiraat wrote: post #15

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The problem is that humans are incredibly complex and diverse, react to stuff in wildly different ways, and you cannot A/B test on the same individual, as you cannot reseg it to the same starting state, you cannot run two experiments on them, and you cannot get two completely matching people.

That's too dramatic. If we were that different, research into medications would be a waste of time.

Example: any drug can have some side effects with some probability.

So basically an unknown set of people will have the side effect.

But there is no way for me to objectively test whether I will have the side effect.

The description of some drugs even contain: we have no idea how this works, it just does (for some people, also with unknown “parameters”).

Re: The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Post by derekperkins »

ooyy wrote: post #71
yboris wrote: post #33

Nutrition Science is broken because of the financial incentives of companies to fund sham research to get their products sold. I strongly recommend going to https://nutritionfacts.org/ for your information -- a nonprofit that never sells anything or promotes any products, just tries to distill research on nutrition in easy-to-understand videos and posts. Here's an example: "How the Egg Board Designs Misleading Studie…

Nutritionfacts is ideologically driven operation. They only present one side of the argument. Plant based diet first, facts second. Being a nonprofit doesn't make you immune from bias. It's not just money perverting the field, but also ideology. The whole field of nutrition is divided into camps, when they conduct meta-analyses of all the literature, they pick inclusion/exclusion criteria so that the side that they a…

It's even more hypocritical than just cherry picking studies. Points in his books are refuted by the same studies he cites! He ignores similar / better outcomes that don't match his bias.

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Post by rafaelero »

faeyanpiraat wrote: post #132
rafaelero wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's too dramatic. If we were that different, research into medications would be a waste of time.

Example: any drug can have some side effects with some probability. So basically an unknown set of people will have the side effect. But there is no way for me to objectively test whether I will have the side effect. The description of some drugs even contain: we have no idea how this works, it just does (for some people, also with unknown “parameters”).

Are you really concerned about the side-effects of eating broccoli?

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Post by ncmncm »

ncmncm wrote: post #119

We were told for decades that saturated fat was really bad for us. Now it turns out (as some pointed out even back when it started) that saturated fat is absolutely fine . All the people dropping dead from heart disease were being poisoned by trans fats, which were being added to everything (as e.g. Crisco, and margerine). There is something wrong in (American) beef, but it's not the saturated fat. We lost decades, b…

Actually I am seeing hints in recent lectures that the problem with American beef has to do with residual iron.

Re: The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Post by faeyanpiraat »

rafaelero wrote: post #134
faeyanpiraat wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Example: any drug can have some side effects with some probability. So basically an unknown set of people will have the side effect. But there is no way for me to objectively test whether I will have the side effect. The description of some drugs even contain: we have no idea how this works, it just does (for some people, also with unknown “parameters”).

Are you really concerned about the side-effects of eating broccoli?

I’m not sure what you are referring to. Could you please elaborate?
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