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What is the difference between CP and CSAM and why is everyone suddenly using the term CSAM instead of CP?
CSAM is not necessarily pornographic material, but merely material that becomes objectionable within context. For example, parents' photos of kids in the bath isn't CP. However _someone else_ having a _quantity_ of bath photos is CSAM, if they have no reasonable reason for possessing them.
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Last year Sam Harris interviewed Gabriel J.X. Dance, the deputy investigations editor at The New York Times [0]. They speak to this. It's a tough episode to listen to - they cover many uncomfortable topics along this theme. From what I recall of the episode, porn (rightly or wrongly) is seen as opt-in for the participants. But if children are involved it cannot be opt-in and is more appropriately described as rape or…
Depends on age and context doesn't it? Is a 17 year old snapchatting their private parts to her 17 year old boyfriend CSAM? Should both parties be imprisoned and go on sex offenders registries for life?
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#23The proposed attack on Apple's protocol doesn't work. The user's device adds randomness when generating an outer encryption key for the voucher. Even if an adversary obtains both the hash set and the blinding key, they're just in the same position as Apple—only able to decrypt if there's a hash match. The paper could do a better job explaining how the ECC blinding scheme works.
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#24Maybe they can also build an api so that governments can search easily for dissidents without the delays that the due process of law causes.
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#25Why does Apple even bother with encryption? They should just skip all of the warrant requirements etc and use their iCloud keys to unlock our content and store it unencrypted at rest. Maybe they can also build an api so that governments can search easily for dissidents without the delays that the due process of law causes.
The best of both worlds: keep advertising their privacy chops to the masses, while also allowing any and every government agency a programmatic way to hash-verify the data passing through their systems in real-time.
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Last year Sam Harris interviewed Gabriel J.X. Dance, the deputy investigations editor at The New York Times [0]. They speak to this. It's a tough episode to listen to - they cover many uncomfortable topics along this theme. From what I recall of the episode, porn (rightly or wrongly) is seen as opt-in for the participants. But if children are involved it cannot be opt-in and is more appropriately described as rape or…
Depends on age and context doesn't it? Is a 17 year old snapchatting their private parts to her 17 year old boyfriend CSAM? Should both parties be imprisoned and go on sex offenders registries for life?
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#29For some reason, after reading the initial reporting on this system, I thought it was running against any photos on your iPhone, but now I read the actual paper, it seems like it only applies to photos destined to be uploaded to iCloud? So users can opt out by not using iCloud?
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#30For some reason, after reading the initial reporting on this system, I thought it was running against any photos on your iPhone, but now I read the actual paper, it seems like it only applies to photos destined to be uploaded to iCloud? So users can opt out by not using iCloud?