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What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by DoreenMichele »

dylan604 wrote: post #120
chillwaves wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not my question. My question is how much easier can it be? I'm just not sure what you are complaining about. Give me an example of a more accessible drug than marijuana.

Sugar Edit: Didn't mean to post a one word reply While it's not classified as a drug, it's definitely addicting. Also, you question is very leading. More accessible? Depends on location. There are plenty of places where meth is much more accessible than anything else including alcohol.

Coffee. Tea. Coca cola products with extract from the coxa plant (cocaine removed, other medicinal compounds retained), cinnamon which is a blood thinner, olives and hot peppers and myriad other things which have medicinal uses.

Edit: I forgot to say alcohol for those folks who think of "drugs" primarily as recreational drugs. Not everyone is into getting high. Some people have other interests in "drugs."

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by nom »

chillwaves wrote: post #99
dylan604 wrote: post #29

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>You can grow it yourself Yes, you can legally do this where it is allowed, but other than that, it is pretty much a copout. Not everyone can grow things well. Not everyone has a green thumb. Also, weed is not the easiest plants to grow and takes a lot of time and effort to get quality flower. It's also not like you can just walk over to plant(s) whenever you want to smoke up. The plant has cycles of when it is makin…

How much easier can it be than literally growing from a plant?

it's easy to grow the plant, you can put seeds in your garden and it will grow. It's not easy to grow and then process (!) the good product people are used to.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by CitizenHeat »

mandmandam wrote: post #28
JeremyBanks wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're misreading. They're not being ordered to destroy crops in order to support the medical marijuana price. They're destroying crops because there was a bubble and they've created way too much supply. Cannabis stocks were a fad for a while, and I know lots of people who invested in them blindly. The number of legal cannabis retailers is exploding. I live in a mid sized town and there are three more opening this mo…

> they're not being ordered to destroy crops in order to support the medical marijuana price. I didn't say, or suggest, that anyone was ordered to destroy crops? They created too much supply, yes. Follow the logic chain out a step. If they wanted to sell it, they could lower the price... Instead they _choose_ to keep the price above the black market price. The black market price which is already inflated far above pr…

Legalization in Canada has dropped unregulated prizes. An 1/8oz (3.5G) pre legalization could fetch $30-$40. Post legalization is maxed at $25. This might not seem like much, but as the weight goes up, it gets drastically cheaper.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by yesco »

fernandotakai wrote: post #106
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16

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Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

>It surprised me in the US that even to sell alcohol to someone clearly over 40, they still ask for an id. it's weird, some american states are like that, others are not. also, it depends on the bar. seattle, for example, always asked for id. new york was suuuuper chill with ids. sf was hit or miss, some bars would ask, some other wouldn't.

My limited understanding is that for most states, if a store, even if accidentally, sells to a minor and gets caught a certain amount of times, the store will lose it's liquor license.

This results in the following problems:

* Underage College students and teenagers are very creative at appearing way older than they are if it means getting booze

* People who are of legal age, particularly older men, will often get offended if carded since it implies the person asking thinks they are young looking

Making it a policy to just check the ids of everyone decreases the amount of people offended and decreases the risk of losing your license which could destroy your business.

I imagine your varying experiences across multiple states is a combination of individual business decisions and how strict that state is with enforcement.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by Yeroc »

mandmandam wrote: post #28
JeremyBanks wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're misreading. They're not being ordered to destroy crops in order to support the medical marijuana price. They're destroying crops because there was a bubble and they've created way too much supply. Cannabis stocks were a fad for a while, and I know lots of people who invested in them blindly. The number of legal cannabis retailers is exploding. I live in a mid sized town and there are three more opening this mo…

> they're not being ordered to destroy crops in order to support the medical marijuana price. I didn't say, or suggest, that anyone was ordered to destroy crops? They created too much supply, yes. Follow the logic chain out a step. If they wanted to sell it, they could lower the price... Instead they _choose_ to keep the price above the black market price. The black market price which is already inflated far above pr…

You seem to be assuming that the producer/grower and retailer are the same company. There are often disconnects in supply chains like this where someone is hemorrhaging money while others in the chain are doing quite well. And besides if your production costs are high there's a point where lowering the price no longer helps. eg. the cost to package it for retail distribution just adds more even more loss.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by Talanes »

bdjddd77 wrote: post #83
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

It's fucking nuts, 40, looking 50, got IDs buying a pack of beers in Walgreens I think, just stopping two night usa back to Europe. She wasn't happy that she couldn't scan the EU driving license but eventually she relented, same next night, I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers? Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

>3yr margin, common sense

I cannot guess ages with anywhere near that precision. In California the usual standard is if you look under 30.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by patmcc »

bdjddd77 wrote: post #83
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

It's fucking nuts, 40, looking 50, got IDs buying a pack of beers in Walgreens I think, just stopping two night usa back to Europe. She wasn't happy that she couldn't scan the EU driving license but eventually she relented, same next night, I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers? Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

>>>Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

People are much worse at estimating ages then they think. If the policy is "ID anyone that looks <21" many 16/17 year olds will look 23 and not get asked. I worked for a chain of liquor stores that had an "ID 25 and under" policy - and to check it, they would send in 25 year olds. Lots of time staff would fail those checks. In my jurisdiction the penalties for selling to minors are strong enough that I'd consider a blanket "ID everyone" policy, or at least "ID everyone <40" or similar.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by serf »

staticassertion wrote: post #7

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

>Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit.

that was my experience with earlier weed delivery groups in SoCal as well, when recommendations were required.

A guy with a suitcase of samples would show up to your door, and offer you a sampling of everything he sold. That person would even help you light-up or vaporize the goods if you have a physical disability that prevented you from doing so yourself , or perhaps teach you how to in-case you're unfamiliar with equipment or technique.

They would sit there and smoke with you or bullshit for a few minutes about strains/strain-quality/benefits/whatever, make a sale with whatever was chosen during the sampling, and then head out the door.

Since those days medical prices have gone down significantly, but the process is now more sterile and 'mass-friendly'. Gone are the days of interactive sampling or someone teaching you how to use a bong or vaporizer -- it's now mostly all 'delivery-fied' : "give me my cash, here's your delivery that I know absolutely nothing about, and i'm gone ASAP."

It's a shame in some ways -- the earlier methods were a lot more compassionate towards actual medical patients and actual medical needs for this product -- the status in SoCal now feels more on-par with UberEats-profit-maximization than it does compassionate-care; a shame since 'weed products' have gotten way more complex with the addition of a million different tincture/extract/compound/etc and the various ways to imbibe them.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by tayo42 »

voisin wrote: post #67

A bit off topic, but for the smokers here what are your thoughts on lung cancer and other negatives associated with smoking? I bought a vaporizer but not sure it is actually healthier than smoking joints. Tried edibles but can’t stand the lack of uniformity and time to kick in.

I switched from bongs to dabs and felt better cardio wise. Live resin extracts are suppsedly pretty minimal in extra stuff. I think the vape oils have a lot of extra crap. I went back to smoking for a bit though I think the dabs are to potent and I was getting panic attacks
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