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NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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On a side note, I wonder how interested we'll be in Mars once the novelty wears off. Will it still be a place where we send our best and brightest? Or a place where we send those who have few other options? My bet is on the latter.

If that didn’t happen to the Moon, why would it happen on even more difficult missions?

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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You must also pass the medical screening, which prohibits a laundry list of common medications: - blood pressure medications - blood thinners - seizure medications - daily allergy medications - diabetic insulin daily - sleeping aids - ADHD/ADD medications - antidepressants - anxiety medications (Insert grumbling about "flight surgeon horseshit" here.)

I don't think my seasonal allergies are going to be a problem in space.

You'll be growing crops year round, indoors. So you could be miserable. Curious if they select for plant strains that give off less pollen.

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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Better source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong... To qualify, you must be: * A U.S. citizen or permanent resident. * A non-smoker, age 30 to 55 years old, and proficient in English. * A viable candidate as an actual astronaut. For this, you usually need a master's degree in a STEM field, or you need to be a pilot or doctor or military officer.

Every time they run one of these similations they ignore the common realworld analogue: sailors. All around the world are tiny communities of mostly men living inside metal boxes for months or years at a time. Historic voyages regularly lasted even longer than the proposed mars missions, and where much more dangerous. Astronaughts could learn much from common sailors.

E.g.:

> The ship, without a mast or a rudder, was carried across the northern Pacific Ocean by currents. It drifted for 14 months, during which the crew lived on desalinated seawater and on the rice of their cargo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokichi

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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Every time they run one of these similations they ignore the common realworld analogue: sailors. All around the world are tiny communities of mostly men living inside metal boxes for months or years at a time. Historic voyages regularly lasted even longer than the proposed mars missions, and where much more dangerous. Astronaughts could learn much from common sailors.

E.g.: > The ship, without a mast or a rudder, was carried across the northern Pacific Ocean by currents. It drifted for 14 months, during which the crew lived on desalinated seawater and on the rice of their cargo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otokichi

"The Makah took the three survivors of the broken ship and held them as slaves for several months before taking them to Fort Vancouver."

^ Their story only got worse! The tribe turned them into slaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makah

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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I don't think my seasonal allergies are going to be a problem in space.

You'll be growing crops year round, indoors. So you could be miserable. Curious if they select for plant strains that give off less pollen.

I have idiopathic allergies and mold and mildew drive me absolutely batty.

There's really no way to avoid bringing those with you, and if the humidity control isn't just right, well then that stuff can grow anywhere that humidity accumulates. And it's not like you can open the windows and scrub the place down every six months to keep it at bay.

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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I don't think my seasonal allergies are going to be a problem in space.

You'll be growing crops year round, indoors. So you could be miserable. Curious if they select for plant strains that give off less pollen.

When all crops will be (presumably) manually pollinated, it might be easier with plants that produce a lot of pollen.

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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Better source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong... To qualify, you must be: * A U.S. citizen or permanent resident. * A non-smoker, age 30 to 55 years old, and proficient in English. * A viable candidate as an actual astronaut. For this, you usually need a master's degree in a STEM field, or you need to be a pilot or doctor or military officer.

Every time they run one of these similations they ignore the common realworld analogue: sailors. All around the world are tiny communities of mostly men living inside metal boxes for months or years at a time. Historic voyages regularly lasted even longer than the proposed mars missions, and where much more dangerous. Astronaughts could learn much from common sailors.

I think it's not about proving that the long isolation is possible, but rather about carrying this experiment in a controlled environment and doing a study.

Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars

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Mars doesn't have an ionosphere. Windows run in direct opposition to radiation shielding.

That's why we're going to need to build a portable mini magnetic shield. It might not be planet sized, but imagine having the auroras just out of reach. Plus, being able to say "Raise the shields" and it not be just a line in a movie would be cool on its own accord.

windows are weak points.
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