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What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by Talanes »

dcolkitt wrote: post #48
staticassertion wrote: post #7

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

On a gram for gram basis, legal weed may be more expensive. But most people don’t appreciate that legal weed is significantly more potent. (Not to mention the health benefit of smoking less plant material.) The average THC content in illegal states is around 10%. High quality legal strains regularly clock in above 25%. So even if you’re paying twice as much per gram, you’re getting a better deal per mole of THC.

I don't think that necessarily holds true if you're making the choice to buy from a dealer though, as having the choice implies you're already in a legal state.

At least in California, I'm under the impression the legal and illegal supply chains are still very intermixed, so the stuff from your dealer is as potent as dispensary. Though I'm not sure how true that holds as you get further from the major growing areas.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by joncp »

monkeybutton wrote: post #8
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada has a ton of such cartels, the egg board, the milk board, the LCBO and so on.

Maple syrup too! https://www.vpr.org/vpr-news/2018-03-08/quebecs-legal-maple-...

Don't mess with those guys.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by Talanes »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #100
handmodel wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In california. I only do edibles. For $1.50 (including tax) I get 5mg so I either spend 1.50 or 3.00 when getting high on a night. Its within walking distance of my house. They do check my ID - but seems easier than dealing with a person I have to meet on a random corner. And if you were a woman or old person - that option would seem even less safe. My yearly budget for pot if probably about $100-150 which seems rema…

Check ID as in verify age >= 21, or put PII into a corp/govt database?

It's often the second one, as under the prior medical-only regulations, dispensaries were all technically organized as cooperatives. I've definitely been in places in the recreational era where I just had to verify my age though.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by fernandotakai »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #100
handmodel wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In california. I only do edibles. For $1.50 (including tax) I get 5mg so I either spend 1.50 or 3.00 when getting high on a night. Its within walking distance of my house. They do check my ID - but seems easier than dealing with a person I have to meet on a random corner. And if you were a woman or old person - that option would seem even less safe. My yearly budget for pot if probably about $100-150 which seems rema…

Check ID as in verify age >= 21, or put PII into a corp/govt database?

i'm not american and i've bought weed from california dispensaries -- just check id to see if you are over 21.

in my case, they just looked at my passport and that was it.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by fernandotakai »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16
staticassertion wrote: post #7

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

>It surprised me in the US that even to sell alcohol to someone clearly over 40, they still ask for an id.

it's weird, some american states are like that, others are not. also, it depends on the bar.

seattle, for example, always asked for id. new york was suuuuper chill with ids.

sf was hit or miss, some bars would ask, some other wouldn't.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by sharken »

KMnO4 wrote: post #50
staticassertion wrote: post #7

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

When it was legalized in Canada, the legal prices were pretty bad. There were also restrictions on only allowing the sale of flower (ie no edibles or concentrates IIRC). Since then, the government has pulled up their socks. The prices are competitive, the quality is fantastic, and the doses are accurate (as opposed to a “300mg edible” actually having anywhere from 50-500mg THC). As a result, I don’t know anyone who d…

I wish more countries would pick up legalization of cannabis.

Anyhow, i suppose there is still a black market for other drugs, that would be curbed with legalization.

It would be quite a feat if Canada were to be the first, but it seems more time has to pass.

https://biv.com/article/2021/04/most-canadians-not-ready-exp...

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by kamarg »

bdjddd77 wrote: post #83
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

It's fucking nuts, 40, looking 50, got IDs buying a pack of beers in Walgreens I think, just stopping two night usa back to Europe. She wasn't happy that she couldn't scan the EU driving license but eventually she relented, same next night, I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers? Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

No empowement. Mistakes could lead to too much bad PR, court cases, or fines. It also means that if anything bad happens, they can fire the employee that didn't follow corporate's rules and claim it was a mistake by the employee and totally not the company's fault.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by OJFord »

WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16
staticassertion wrote: post #7

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

> But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version.

(I'm not Dutch but) Are you sure they don't? Obviously not claim tax back having bought on the street corner, but if it's medicinal as in actually prescribed, not just 'self-medicating', then surely it's tax free just like I assume anything else would be?

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Post by handrous »

bdjddd77 wrote: post #83
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

It's fucking nuts, 40, looking 50, got IDs buying a pack of beers in Walgreens I think, just stopping two night usa back to Europe. She wasn't happy that she couldn't scan the EU driving license but eventually she relented, same next night, I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers? Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

> do they not enpower their workers?

The US is pathologically concerned with blame, and with avoiding blame. Everything about the US makes a ton more sense if you understand that.

If you don't empower workers, then anything they do is their fault. If you do, then anything they do might be your fault, for failing to restrict them ahead of time. It's as simple as that.

So you let them make as few choices as possible (then, if they do and it's bad, you're off the hook).

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