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What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

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>Barely more than half of all pot sales today are conducted through the legal market When the government won't pay more than $850/lb no matter the quality of the weed, what do you expect? The weed in legal dispensaries is straight trash. It's dry, usually packaged months before in containers or bags, costs more than the old medical dispensaries or literally anyone else selling weed. There is zero reason to go into a…

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Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#92

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

The regulators were way too aggressive. They overburdened farms and dispensaries to such a degree that legal sources are having a hard time competing with the black market even though dispensaries were considered essential businesses (able to stay open) through the pandemic.

Now California is bailing out the industry to the tune of $100M.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-14/californ...

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#93
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That sounds like pretty high support. That's one way of spinning it. The other replies paint a different picture. Specifically: 1. https://i0.wp.com/angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/S... most people prefer the non-supply managed products, taking into account the pros/cons . (emphasis mine) 2. https://i1.wp.com/angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/S... only ~40% "support" it, so concluding that "most of u…

> most people prefer the non-supply managed products, taking into account the pros/cons . I don't think they pros/cons they listed (i.e. price differences) are reflective of reality. Specifically, they list milk as $2.25/L, citing statscan as a source. This is $9 per 4L bag, an absurd price outside of the Territories. Reviewing the actual statscan data source [1], milk prices have been very stable at $1.25 to $1.37 p…

>I don't think they pros/cons they listed (i.e. price differences) are reflective of reality

What makes you think the pros/cons they listed are just the price? In the linked questionnaire they have:

Supporters of the system say it ensures high quality, safe products and a secure level of profit for farmers who, in turn, don’t have to worry about changing world market prices.

Opponents say it restricts choices and increases prices for Canadian consumers.According to some estimates, Canadians pay 1.5 to three times what they would without supply management for these goods.Opponents also say that while the system once protected more than 150,000 farmers in the 1970’s,it now protects only about 17,000, suggesting it is less necessary or outdated

That seems to line up with the arguments for/against supply management discussed in this thread.

>Reviewing the actual statscan data source [1], milk prices have been very stable at $1.25 to $1.37 per liter as long as they're been recording data. So I don't know where $2.25 came from.

The article was dated August 2, 2017. If we checked the archived page as of jun 17, 2017, we see the $2.33/L price figure.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170617054025/http://www.statca...

As for whether the numbers are representative because people buy in bulk: does it matter? The hypothetical non-supply managed prices were obtained by taking the current price and dividing by 3 (which was the suggested price premium according to University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy), so it doesn't really matter which starting price you used.

>That's firmly in Majority territory when it comes to Canadian politics :).

1. this is a sneaky moving of the goalposts from "most" to "majority"

2. Maybe en-CA has a different definition for "majority", but the definition on wiktionary unambiguously states that it has to be greater than 50%. maybe you're looking for "plurality"?

3. even if we use "plurality", using that to paint the picture that the policy has widespread support is misleading, especially when it's split pretty close 3 ways. At best it can be called "mixed".

>There's a reason even the conservative party (the only political affiliation with more people opposed to supply management than supporting it) will not touch the issue.

I don't get it. Why arbitrarily exclude people of a certain political affiliation? You can't say "most people disapprove of biden", then backtrack and say that it's true because you excluded all the democrats.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in the Netherlands tax for weed is really high. 50% if I recall correctly. Not sure I hate the idea -- at least tax money is put to very good use. But for those for whom it's more than merely recreational (e.g.: medicinal use), I wish they'd sell a tax-free version. Too prone to abuse I guess. However, heading to a coffeshop[1] isn't a big deal. It's a person behind the stand, you pic what you want from a menu,…

It's fucking nuts, 40, looking 50, got IDs buying a pack of beers in Walgreens I think, just stopping two night usa back to Europe. She wasn't happy that she couldn't scan the EU driving license but eventually she relented, same next night, I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers? Uk is over 18, but ask for id if you have any doubt less than 21, 3yr margin, common sense

> I was perplexed, do they not enpower their workers?

No, big chains like that in the US don't even empower middle management.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#95
post #67

A bit off topic, but for the smokers here what are your thoughts on lung cancer and other negatives associated with smoking? I bought a vaporizer but not sure it is actually healthier than smoking joints. Tried edibles but can’t stand the lack of uniformity and time to kick in.

Vaping is quite substantially healthier than joints/bongs. You aren't burning the material but baking it at oven temps.

I tried to get my stoner buddies into vaping and everyone's switched except the guys that are culturally infected to give up being the "joint smoking guys".

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#97

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

The regulators were way too aggressive. They overburdened farms and dispensaries to such a degree that legal sources are having a hard time competing with the black market even though dispensaries were considered essential businesses (able to stay open) through the pandemic. Now California is bailing out the industry to the tune of $100M. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-14/californ...

This is the consequence of the “regulate and tax the hell out of it!” policy that some Americans want to apply to all vices.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#98

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

Weed is a bit more expensive now than when I bought from a dealer, but it’s still seems very cheap for what you get out of it. The amount of modern, high potency cannabis I can buy for the price of two beers would turn me into a complete zombie if I was even able to smoke it all in one sitting, and I’m a habitual user. Of course, I’ve noticed a large variance in how it affects different people.

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#99
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone was lucky enough to have a chill dealer. It reminds me of joe Rogans bit about how in order to buy this harmless plant you have to interact with a criminal. Oh, and commit a crime. Legalization is 100% the right thing. You can grow it yourself or get it delivered if you hate the dispensary so much.

>You can grow it yourself Yes, you can legally do this where it is allowed, but other than that, it is pretty much a copout. Not everyone can grow things well. Not everyone has a green thumb. Also, weed is not the easiest plants to grow and takes a lot of time and effort to get quality flower. It's also not like you can just walk over to plant(s) whenever you want to smoke up. The plant has cycles of when it is makin…

How much easier can it be than literally growing from a plant?

Re: What do you do with a billion grams of surplus weed?

#100

Weed being legal is cool (and a huge deal and way overdue) but, until I moved to SF, I still bought from a dealer. It was cheaper and I got really high quality stuff, got to give feedback to the guy on the strains, chocolates, etc. Plus my guy would smoke me up for free a good amount of the time and we'd just chill and chat for a bit. Legal weed is wayyyy more expensive in my experience and I dislike the experience.…

In california. I only do edibles. For $1.50 (including tax) I get 5mg so I either spend 1.50 or 3.00 when getting high on a night. Its within walking distance of my house. They do check my ID - but seems easier than dealing with a person I have to meet on a random corner. And if you were a woman or old person - that option would seem even less safe. My yearly budget for pot if probably about $100-150 which seems rema…

Check ID as in verify age >= 21, or put PII into a corp/govt database?
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