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NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
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Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#52Better source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong... To qualify, you must be: * A U.S. citizen or permanent resident. * A non-smoker, age 30 to 55 years old, and proficient in English. * A viable candidate as an actual astronaut. For this, you usually need a master's degree in a STEM field, or you need to be a pilot or doctor or military officer.
Every time they run one of these similations they ignore the common realworld analogue: sailors. All around the world are tiny communities of mostly men living inside metal boxes for months or years at a time. Historic voyages regularly lasted even longer than the proposed mars missions, and where much more dangerous. Astronaughts could learn much from common sailors.
You can even take it a step further to the subset of sailors that operate on submarines.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every time they run one of these similations they ignore the common realworld analogue: sailors. All around the world are tiny communities of mostly men living inside metal boxes for months or years at a time. Historic voyages regularly lasted even longer than the proposed mars missions, and where much more dangerous. Astronaughts could learn much from common sailors.
You can even take it a step further to the subset of sailors that operate on submarines.
Military is different. Those are much larger crews and dont spend as much time at sea, generally only a few months at a time.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#54Better source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong... To qualify, you must be: * A U.S. citizen or permanent resident. * A non-smoker, age 30 to 55 years old, and proficient in English. * A viable candidate as an actual astronaut. For this, you usually need a master's degree in a STEM field, or you need to be a pilot or doctor or military officer.
You must also pass the medical screening, which prohibits a laundry list of common medications: - blood pressure medications - blood thinners - seizure medications - daily allergy medications - diabetic insulin daily - sleeping aids - ADHD/ADD medications - antidepressants - anxiety medications (Insert grumbling about "flight surgeon horseshit" here.)
Gattaca Here we come!
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#55On a side note, I wonder how interested we'll be in Mars once the novelty wears off.
Will it still be a place where we send our best and brightest? Or a place where we send those who have few other options?
My bet is on the latter.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
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I get that, I'm just saying why does it need to not have windows?
On Mars you have to deal with radiation because there is no magnetic field. The most realistic way to do that in early missions is by putting rock between the habitation module and the sky, either by burying it in regolith or by putting it in natural lava tubes. Either option makes windows difficult. If this experiment shows that windows are vital, I'm sure there are ways to make it work. But otherwise windows are an…
I've often thought that wall-sized retina monitors would be wonderful. People can travel the world this way without ever leaving the room.
But it might work even with the large TV monitors today. Just put a camera where the nice view is, and pipe it in to the screen.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#57A pilot, a doctor, and a military officer are all living together in an RV for a year. Who does the cleaning?
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
On Mars you have to deal with radiation because there is no magnetic field. The most realistic way to do that in early missions is by putting rock between the habitation module and the sky, either by burying it in regolith or by putting it in natural lava tubes. Either option makes windows difficult. If this experiment shows that windows are vital, I'm sure there are ways to make it work. But otherwise windows are an…
I've often thought that wall-sized retina monitors would be wonderful. People can travel the world this way without ever leaving the room. But it might work even with the large TV monitors today. Just put a camera where the nice view is, and pipe it in to the screen.
VR has probably killed that market.
Walter you might be interested to know that London City airport's Air traffic controllers do actually use this technology. There isn't enough space for a full tower so they have a redundant camera system on site and the controllers are nearby elsewhere - this allows them to use tricks like overlaying data about aircraft onto their view, and they actually compress the whole viewing area directly onto their panels.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#59I wonder if this is a continuation of the same research the habitat podcast was based on: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/the-habitat The podcast was an interesting big brother style reality show depicting 6 people living inside a potential Mars habitat for a year as research for NASA. Descriptions sound very similar. May want to listen to the podcast before you volunteer :-)
I remember the Biosphere 2 project from the early 90s which was everywhere in the news but didn't work out. "Biosphere 2 was only used twice for its original intended purposes as a closed-system experiment: once from 1991 to 1993, and the second time from March to September 1994. Both attempts, though heavily publicized, ran into problems including low amounts of food and oxygen, die-offs of many animals and plants i…
I visited there in 1999. After the original experiment failed, it ended up used by Columbia University for research and a friend of mine from high school was a student there. She and I drove all the way from LA to Oracle, AZ to pick up a friend of hers doing a summer course there, stayed a few days, and he came back to LA to spent the rest of the summer with us.
Years later, in the Army, I was struck by how similar the permanent living structures at the National Training Center are to those at Biosphere II. At least structurally. The students get real rooms whereas we got cots and tape on the floor. Another thing that struck me at NTC was how similar the landscape looked to any pictures I've ever seen of Mars. If NASA wants maximum fidelity, don't just put these people in a closed room, but do it underground in Death Valley.
Re: NASA is looking for people who want to spend a year simulating a mission on Mars
#60Better source: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-is-recruiting-for-yearlong... To qualify, you must be: * A U.S. citizen or permanent resident. * A non-smoker, age 30 to 55 years old, and proficient in English. * A viable candidate as an actual astronaut. For this, you usually need a master's degree in a STEM field, or you need to be a pilot or doctor or military officer.
These people usually make good money and often need to make good money, because they have families and mortgages.
It won't be easy to find people fulfilling all that criteria (including health requirements) and willing to leave a good job for a year.