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US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

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Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

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post #12

The Taliban regime is going to be hostile to women. It'll be a return to violence, executions, and feudalism. Yet I see a lot of liberals that have no problem with a Taliban takeover and would rather see a US withdrawal. I'm a liberal person, but I think Taliban takeover is a horrific outcome. What's the argument / angle here? Furthermore, it seems to open the geopolitical sphere for China to step into the vacuum. It…

We give me money to regimes that are oppressive to hostile to women.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

#32
post #3

The unrelenting Taliban aggression into Afghanistan, the ancestral heartland of the United States which Americans have inhabited for millennia, is outrageous. They should go back to their own country, IMO.

You realize that the Afghan people by and large do not want Taliban rule, right? Very few want to be ruled by a violent, oppressive theocracy. Personally I would like the US to leave Afghanistan as well, but I have sympathy for the people who may have to suffer Taliban rule. Ideally the international or at least regional community would step in.

where do new taliban come from? It's been 20 years since the original invasion and the Taliban from back then are probably either all dead or too old to fight.

So it must be a popular ideology for some.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

#33
post #3

The unrelenting Taliban aggression into Afghanistan, the ancestral heartland of the United States which Americans have inhabited for millennia, is outrageous. They should go back to their own country, IMO.

You realize that the Afghan people by and large do not want Taliban rule, right? Very few want to be ruled by a violent, oppressive theocracy. Personally I would like the US to leave Afghanistan as well, but I have sympathy for the people who may have to suffer Taliban rule. Ideally the international or at least regional community would step in.

No, he doesn't realize that. And no, the international community should not step in. They already did. This administration gave up on that friendship. Many will die because of that.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

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Hey, a concert instead of bombs might promote goodwill and healing in a war town land. Though I'm not sure how well an Islamist group would take to 'Love Shack', it might actually further sour relations.

They'll be fine with it, as long as their wives don't sing along.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

#35
post #9

AFAIK the Afghan commanders stole their soldiers pay so the soldiers sold their weapons to the Taliban. The Taliban taking it back over seems like a natural consequence.

The Afghan Army is corrupt. The Taliban is authoritarian. Guess which will occupy the majority of the country in a month or two

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

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post #3

The unrelenting Taliban aggression into Afghanistan, the ancestral heartland of the United States which Americans have inhabited for millennia, is outrageous. They should go back to their own country, IMO.

You realize that the Afghan people by and large do not want Taliban rule, right? Very few want to be ruled by a violent, oppressive theocracy. Personally I would like the US to leave Afghanistan as well, but I have sympathy for the people who may have to suffer Taliban rule. Ideally the international or at least regional community would step in.

This isn't true. There are many many stories of rural Afghans supporting the Taliban because they, unlike the corrupt US-backed government, actually fight and punish crime and thus make life a bit more bearable for people who have been without a stable government for decades.

When you live in the West your view of oppression is "They make you dress some way. They kill you for adultery, etc." But the vast majority of people have problems like "These are my cattle and he is saying they are his and no one will accept my proof that they are mine" or "People brazenly steal from us because no one will stop them and we can't feed our families". Bodily autonomy is not on the list of things 90% of the world cares about. Only elites who live in big cities care about these things.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

#38
post #12

The Taliban regime is going to be hostile to women. It'll be a return to violence, executions, and feudalism. Yet I see a lot of liberals that have no problem with a Taliban takeover and would rather see a US withdrawal. I'm a liberal person, but I think Taliban takeover is a horrific outcome. What's the argument / angle here? Furthermore, it seems to open the geopolitical sphere for China to step into the vacuum. It…

>The Taliban regime is going to be hostile to women. It'll be a return to violence, executions, and feudalism. Yet I see a lot of liberals that have no problem with a Taliban takeover and would rather see a US withdrawal.

There are hundreds of countries where women are treated like shit, of which Afghanistan is but one.

Perhaps the people who want to see a withdrawal realize that America-as-World-Police isn't sustainable, and serves only to kill scores of American service members, to say nothing of countless Afghan civilians, while lining the pockets of executives at Raytheon, Lockheed-Martin, and General Dynamics.

Perhaps a better solution would be curbing domestic racism and xenophobia in the United States and inviting these women to immigrate.

Re: US unleashes B-52s in bid to stem Taliban advance

#39
post #3

The unrelenting Taliban aggression into Afghanistan, the ancestral heartland of the United States which Americans have inhabited for millennia, is outrageous. They should go back to their own country, IMO.

You realize that the Afghan people by and large do not want Taliban rule, right? Very few want to be ruled by a violent, oppressive theocracy. Personally I would like the US to leave Afghanistan as well, but I have sympathy for the people who may have to suffer Taliban rule. Ideally the international or at least regional community would step in.

Maybe they should try putting up a fight, then.
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