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Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by l332mn »

dash2 wrote: post #148
samvega_ wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It had winnie the poo memes afaik. It would be like posting the drawn image of obama as a monkey (which caused a stir a while ago) while criticizing his policies in the US.

Wait a second. Is the argument here that comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh is "racist"? As opposed to just, say, offensive to a very powerful fat man? Wow, OK. I think we have a new standard for the use of racism accusations to censor people.

Of course it is racist. I'm not sure if it was the Winnie the pooh, I assumed it was due to its prevalence and how the article described it as a cartoon depicting stereotyped features (yellow skin).

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by dash2 »

l332mn wrote: post #151
dash2 wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait a second. Is the argument here that comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh is "racist"? As opposed to just, say, offensive to a very powerful fat man? Wow, OK. I think we have a new standard for the use of racism accusations to censor people.

Of course it is racist. I'm not sure if it was the Winnie the pooh, I assumed it was due to its prevalence and how the article described it as a cartoon depicting stereotyped features (yellow skin).

"Of course"? You've got a link? Can you share?

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by axiosgunnar »

jollybean wrote: post #123
casualracism wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you even talking about? Posting racist cartoon depicting stereotypes about Chinese is exactly what the Chinese studies PhD student did, so this is an exact parallel.

A cartoon which has Chinese characters is not racist.

It was just a „Cartoon with Chinese characteristics“!

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by [deleted] »

dash2 wrote: post #152
l332mn wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it is racist. I'm not sure if it was the Winnie the pooh, I assumed it was due to its prevalence and how the article described it as a cartoon depicting stereotyped features (yellow skin).

"Of course"? You've got a link? Can you share?

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Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by casualracism »

dash2 wrote: post #148
samvega_ wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It had winnie the poo memes afaik. It would be like posting the drawn image of obama as a monkey (which caused a stir a while ago) while criticizing his policies in the US.

Wait a second. Is the argument here that comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie the Pooh is "racist"? As opposed to just, say, offensive to a very powerful fat man? Wow, OK. I think we have a new standard for the use of racism accusations to censor people.

This is a straw man because that’s not what the cartoon was about, at least not according to TFA.

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by casualracism »

jollybean wrote: post #123
casualracism wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you even talking about? Posting racist cartoon depicting stereotypes about Chinese is exactly what the Chinese studies PhD student did, so this is an exact parallel.

A cartoon which has Chinese characters is not racist.

Again, it’s not just a “cartoon which has Chinese characters”. Stop pushing misinformation in obvious contradiction with available information.

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by AussieWog93 »

curiousgal wrote: post #90
jvll wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about whether it was stupid what he's done. It's about the fact that China has this much influence on Swiss education.

> China has this much influence on Swiss education. What are you on about?

CCP influence in foreign universities is definitely a thing, at least under Xi (mostly aimed at Mainland Chinese students studying abroad, not Westerners directly).

It got to the point where a special taskforce was set up specifically to tackle this issue here in Australia; I'd be surprised if we were the only country experiencing this.

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by fakedang »

phreeza wrote: post #119

Regardless of the merits of this case, I think it is interesting to also consider if the reverse could conceivably happen. Could a Chinese professor become worried about travel visa to the US because one of their students starts posting things critical of the US? I think for a Chinese professor the answer is perhaps not immediately obvious, but if you switch it to a professor from an Arabic country, I think the conce…

I don't know how evident it is in the West, but what you mentioned for the US is very true, not just for Arab countries but also South Asian and African visitors. Around more than a decade back, when our school had planned for a trip to NASA, I remember the teachers and the visa guide aggressively asking all the students who had applied to scrub anything political off their social media and their public profiles elsewhere. The US visa officials are also the most hostile lot, and while I didn't experience much hassle during my interview (I guess because I worked in a white shoe firm which was sponsoring the visa), I was witness to seeing a Sikh family get intensely rattled and rammed during their process.

Re: Swiss Ph.D student’s dismissal spotlights China’s influence

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Post by taneq »

cblconfederate wrote: post #59
traveler01 wrote: post #52

The content of this article clearly shows how hurt the concept of free speach is nowadays. You tweet some stuff and you're life is destroyed. Simple. No warning or whatsoever, you just destroy your life because you angered China.

Or you angered america, or the US political parties Or women or trans people or nonbinary people. It's like , if you don't draw a hard line, the virus keeps expanding

Turns out a side effect of the internet giving everyone a voice is that humans are pack animals and mob rule is in our nature.
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