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An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
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Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#172Let‘s play a simple game.
Go to https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Techni...
and then replace
- "National Center for Missing and Exploited Children“ with „the new Trump administration“
- „child pornography“ with „LGBT content“
Doesn't look fun anymore, does it?
(use „the new Clinton administration“ and „images of guns“ if you are conservative)
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#173Related but slightly off-topic: am I the only one that thinks more technology is not the answer to catching crooks? Can’t the police do good old fashioned police work to catch people doing these things? Why does EVERYONE need to be surveilled for the 0.01% (or less?) who don’t behave properly. To further this point: why do we need cameras on every street, facial recognition systems and 3-letter orgs storing huge data…
American police has never been de-funded, and if you really think "good old fashioned" police work ever actually worked for most people, you are misinformed. Without even discussing policing across racial and poverty lines, one only needs to look at police failing to catch serial killers, rapists, and even just house burglars. The situation was much worst 10, 20, 30+ years ago. Nowadays police have some of their work…
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, yes I am fairly uninformed about police effectiveness which is why I wanted to find out more.
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#174Honestly I'm glad to see a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously, especially when the goal Apple announces appears to be for the greater good. It can be hard to stand on the side that doesn't immediately appear to be correct. We have already lost so many freedoms for 'national security' and other such blanket terminology. Just be warned, there will be those that unfairly try to cast this as h…
> a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously We're all here to make ourselves feel good saying we Took A Stand. In reality, four weeks from now, do you think anybody will still be talking about it? I made this same mistake. I was pretty convinced that people were taking Copilot seriously, and that there was possibly going to be ramifications for Microsoft. I wasn't particularly looking forward t…
I am cancelling my apple one subscription as we speak.
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#175https://www.apple.com/child-safety/pdf/CSAM_Detection_Techni... Apple uses sophisticated cryptography to make absolutely certain that you cannot hold them accountable for abuses of this system against you, NONE of which are prevented by its complex construction. The private set intersection is an alternative to sending you a list of bad-image hashes which uses significantly more bandwidth than simply sending you the…
The existence of Spyware Engine is a problem, not technical details of how current version suppose to work . Suppose to work because we have not idea what it will do. Did you see the source code? We are not that naive to believe for a second that this Spyware Engine will do what is claimed. This is simply viewed as calculated attempt to legalize Spyware Engine on a personal device covered by some bs story intended to…
I agree with you, but if you'd take the time to read my post you would see that I am arguing that it's not good even by their own claims!
They talk a lot about complex crypto to protect privacy but the primary thing it's doing is hiding what apple is matching against, which shields them against accountability.
I fully agree that even if the behavior were currently threading the needle it would still be an extremely bad move.
See also this prior post of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28083838
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#176Honestly I'm glad to see a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously, especially when the goal Apple announces appears to be for the greater good. It can be hard to stand on the side that doesn't immediately appear to be correct. We have already lost so many freedoms for 'national security' and other such blanket terminology. Just be warned, there will be those that unfairly try to cast this as h…
> a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously We're all here to make ourselves feel good saying we Took A Stand. In reality, four weeks from now, do you think anybody will still be talking about it? I made this same mistake. I was pretty convinced that people were taking Copilot seriously, and that there was possibly going to be ramifications for Microsoft. I wasn't particularly looking forward t…
I completed my move to the Pinephone and formatted my iPhone over this. I'm probably not alone.
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#177Related but slightly off-topic: am I the only one that thinks more technology is not the answer to catching crooks? Can’t the police do good old fashioned police work to catch people doing these things? Why does EVERYONE need to be surveilled for the 0.01% (or less?) who don’t behave properly. To further this point: why do we need cameras on every street, facial recognition systems and 3-letter orgs storing huge data…
> "Can’t the police do good old fashioned police work to catch people doing these things?" I'm a detective that works exclusively on online child sexual offences. The short answer to this is "no", although the question doesn't make much sense to me. Policing has always been near the forefront of technology. Perhaps you could expand more on what "good old fashioned police work" means, in this context?
Thanks for your reply - I meant that police caught criminals before the internet (I do not know the effectiveness and am unknowledgeable on this subject generally), however they did that, getting out there speaking to suspects and victims, and investigating with evidence I would guess
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously We're all here to make ourselves feel good saying we Took A Stand. In reality, four weeks from now, do you think anybody will still be talking about it? I made this same mistake. I was pretty convinced that people were taking Copilot seriously, and that there was possibly going to be ramifications for Microsoft. I wasn't particularly looking forward t…
Can’t speak for everybody of course, but I am currently planning the migration away from the Apple ecosystem and I’m heavily invested (watch, phone, MacBook, Mac Pro, Apple TV). I’ve also been recommending to friends and family to move to droids with microG. The largest concern I have for them is that they’re stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. Most people aren’t going to run a droid without google, or Lin…
My girlfriend manages with Pop_OS! At this point it's more user friendly than Windows.
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
Last year Apple reacted after the outcry about MacOS tracking[1] so there is some hope. That was not a deliberate product and probably more of an unintended behavior though. I'm really hoping this was just a team at Apple that got blinded by all the cool cryptography they came up with to solve a problem and that the higher ups will react if we screech loudly enough. [1]: https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-is…
> Last year Apple reacted How did they react? Isn't it still in effect? Still sending unencrypted messages when apps are opened? As far as I'm aware, they plan on having OCSP encrypted, and plan on giving users a choice. I honestly do not get the outrage over the apple's client side scanning. It's outrageous, sure, but... much of the same people seem to have been ok with unencrypted telemetry being transmitted for ev…
Not sure about the OCSP encryption but they did remove their VPN bypass in 11.2 (which was the bigger issue for me at least)
Re: An open letter against Apple's new privacy-invasive client-side content scanning
#180Related but slightly off-topic: am I the only one that thinks more technology is not the answer to catching crooks? Can’t the police do good old fashioned police work to catch people doing these things? Why does EVERYONE need to be surveilled for the 0.01% (or less?) who don’t behave properly. To further this point: why do we need cameras on every street, facial recognition systems and 3-letter orgs storing huge data…
I don't think police has been defunded more than the funds have been put into unnecessary things like surplus military gear, settlements to defend the vast minority of bad cops, etc. That takes the oxygen out of everything including what most people consider fair police work.