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Honestly I'm glad to see a non-insignificant amount of people in tech take this seriously, especially when the goal Apple announces appears to be for the greater good. It can be hard to stand on the side that doesn't immediately appear to be correct. We have already lost so many freedoms for 'national security' and other such blanket terminology. Just be warned, there will be those that unfairly try to cast this as h…
Unpopular opinion: I think the outrage over this is quite overblown. This kind of hash checking is done by damn near all cloud providers - Google Photos, Dropbox, Gmail, Discord, Reddit, OneDrive, Facebook, Twitter, you name it. Apple have actually been very reluctant to implement this. If you don’t like it, you don’t need to enable iCloud Photos. In the exact same way as if you don’t want your images scanned by Drop…
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all the time. it triggers resignations, policy changes, impedes further power grabs. if you're a small player in an evil empire it's the one thing you can really do that makes a difference. just quitting is what theyd want you to do. That never makes a difference.
One person quitting doesn't make a difference. Most people quitting sure does.
But, good luck trying to spur an exodus i guess?
In my view this is weaponization of personal devices on a mass scale with clear intent of normalization of surveillance state on a global level.
The fact that this comes after NSO spyware investigation speaks volumes. They don't care about privacy. They care about control over user data.
I hope this will give power to Linux and FOSS movement and be the beginning of serious Apple detox.
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So we force Apple to migrate away from ARM? Or should the next iPhone have a swappable CPU?
I’m not sure I understand how microcode is a problem here. Microcode isn’t an OS. I can compile for arm 8.3 and execute those instructions on apple silicon just fine. The kernel is the only thing that gets in the way, not the microcode…
I mean this does forget the point that absolutely nothing is stopping anyone making a riscv processor which also has such features; we just have to take the manufacturer’s word that they don’t? Riscv isn’t the solution to any of these problems, but hopefully it’ll enable a few more ethical manufacturers to pop up who do make this stuff their core mission.
Probably not, though.
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Can’t speak for everybody of course, but I am currently planning the migration away from the Apple ecosystem and I’m heavily invested (watch, phone, MacBook, Mac Pro, Apple TV). I’ve also been recommending to friends and family to move to droids with microG. The largest concern I have for them is that they’re stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. Most people aren’t going to run a droid without google, or Lin…
> I am currently planning the migration away from the Apple ecosystem Me too. I told my wife today that I'll be looking at a feature phone as I'm not sure I can be bothered with jumping through all the hoops required to de-Google an Android phone. I remember a time before mobile phones, I was just fine without one - smartphones aren't that good, just convenient.
This is companies consistently get away with pissing off their customers. It's the same reason politicians get away with pissing off their electorate. Even in a crowded space people seldom get outraged enough to change their buying habits. But in an industry where the options are already limited (Android or iOS) and where people only buy products, at most, once every two years...? Sorry but literally nobody outside your social circle will notice if you stopped buying Apple products.
I get this is a depressing response and I'm not suggesting that you shouldn't follow through with your threat. But I hear this threat posted unironically a lot and it seems to me that people think they have the power to invoke change simply by moaning on a few message boards or buying a competitors products for a couple of years (then that competitor does something to earn our outrage and we're back to the first company again). But real change takes effort. A lot of effort. More effort than most are willing to commit. Hence why the GP rightfully commented that in a months time people will have moved on to their next outrage.
I signed this, but I'm very doubtful this will ever achieve something. But this made me wonder: is there an history of people complaining about this sort of things and actually achieving something? I think this might have happened with MSFT's hailstorm/passport, where in the end industry opposition meant the project was abandoned, but I can't recall other instances.
Last year Apple reacted after the outcry about MacOS tracking[1] so there is some hope. That was not a deliberate product and probably more of an unintended behavior though. I'm really hoping this was just a team at Apple that got blinded by all the cool cryptography they came up with to solve a problem and that the higher ups will react if we screech loudly enough. [1]: https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-is…
How did they react? Isn't it still in effect? Still sending unencrypted messages when apps are opened?
As far as I'm aware, they plan on having OCSP encrypted, and plan on giving users a choice.
I honestly do not get the outrage over the apple's client side scanning. It's outrageous, sure, but... much of the same people seem to have been ok with unencrypted telemetry being transmitted for every executable run. Not to mention that every executable will also be logged at some point, so apple knows every program you've ever run.
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Can’t speak for everybody of course, but I am currently planning the migration away from the Apple ecosystem and I’m heavily invested (watch, phone, MacBook, Mac Pro, Apple TV). I’ve also been recommending to friends and family to move to droids with microG. The largest concern I have for them is that they’re stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea. Most people aren’t going to run a droid without google, or Lin…
> I am currently planning the migration away from the Apple ecosystem Me too. I told my wife today that I'll be looking at a feature phone as I'm not sure I can be bothered with jumping through all the hoops required to de-Google an Android phone. I remember a time before mobile phones, I was just fine without one - smartphones aren't that good, just convenient.
I was actually looking to buy the new iPhone should they add back TouchID, but this has been quite the turnoff. Are Pixel phones the only android phones that allow you to do secure boot with non stock images and basically long term cripple phone functionality once its unlocked?
Google does the same with Google Drive. Apple is just late for the party.