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Re: Does the Tuskegee experiment explain black vaccination rates?

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Post by Talanes » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 5:37 PM UTC

civilized wrote: post #30

Talanes wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how that's obvious? School isn't where I learned about the Tuskegee experiment, so why would I assume that's the primary way people learn about it? That's a claim that actually needs some data to back it up.

I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect, but if we must have data, see Figure 4 of https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3221924/#!po=29...

>I think this is pretty straightforwardly what any social scientist would expect

And statements like that are why I don't trust any social science without digging a few layers deeper than the data that's initially presented.

Re: Does the Tuskegee experiment explain black vaccination rates?

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Post by meowface » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 5:47 PM UTC

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #70

meowface wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about how ridiculous the conspiracy theory is when considering the full context. Obviously it's not the case that the US is using the COVID vaccines to experiment on certain races while excluding others. It's about why someone might believe such a thing and what you can to do to try to convince them otherwise. "They use the same vials" isn't a great argument to give to a skeptic. Unless you manage to get in…

"Back rooms"?? Where I got vaccinated was on a big basketball court where there were rows and rows of vaccination stations. It was all literally out in the open where you could simply watch who was getting vaccinated.

Presumably they're using different syringes for different people in any one sitting, right? If there were a plan to inject some people with something different, the people administering the vaccine could hypothetically decide which syringe to use based on some tiny, subtle marking or alteration that the public wouldn't notice.

If you could see that every syringe used was filled from the same "output port" (don't know the actual term) on the same storage device, then it'd be a lot harder to accuse them of anything.

Re: Does the Tuskegee experiment explain black vaccination rates?

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Post by Irongirl1 » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 4:37 AM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #34

Has anyone tried actually surveying the black community for an explanation?

Stay out of our communities, please. Chip and Karen coming around with a clipboard being nosy will not help you understand what you are obviously not capable of grasping.

Remember the tshirt : "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

Re: Does the Tuskegee experiment explain black vaccination rates?

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Post by Irongirl1 » Sat, Aug 07, 2021, 4:39 AM UTC

vfclists wrote: post #64

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #34

Has anyone tried actually surveying the black community for an explanation?

It is not the black community that has to be surveyed, it is about asking those black people who don't want to take it why they don't want to take it. It is not about surveying everyone.

I am a "black person who doesn't want to take it."

So I can help you: NO.

I am also a teeny tiny bit Cherokee.

So I can Help you: NO.

I don't to explain anything to you because you are not my mother, father or tribal chief.

NO.

Why??? Because I said so.