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Great point. There's certainly much more that goes into building a site like Reddit than what goes into building a clone in two weeks. The purpose of this is to show the potential of what can be done in no-code. No-code is still in it's very early days, and I think that a lot of its capabilities will improve over time. Also, it's very possible that a lot of the inefficiencies in no-code apps are a result of the build…
> No-code is still in it's very early days This is simply not true. WYSIWYG is no code and has been around since long before people had catchy names for it. Dreamweaver and FrontPage were early examples of it, the benefit they provided was they attempted to let you design by a GUI first, then they'd let you peak the code underneath. Usually, no-code or low-code these days does not come with the source, which makes it…
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Re: Show HN: Reddit clone built in no-code in two weeks
#162I gave bubble a serious look and quickly discovered its performance was abysmal. I suppose it is OK if you want to prototype or create an MVP, but if you think you are going to create something that can scale you are sorely mistaken. Considering this, I found it to not be worth the learning curve since the time I would spend would be a sunk cost if the app were to actually take off because it would need to be complet…
Internal apps in companies around processes, etc.
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#164Tried out bubble recently, and I am more pro nocode than most I would say, but it wasn't for me. Learning curve too high for inferior results imo
Inferior results to what exactly? Interested to know about alternatives you've used
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#165I love no code! Wait. Wait. Hear me out... Building software is easy. Changing people's minds is damned near impossible. As an engineer: - I'm constantly handed shitty (or a complete lack thereof) requirements from non-technical people. No code lets people figure out that they haven't thought something out nearly as much as they think they have. I no longer am the bearer of bad news. - I constantly see business peopl…
> I'm constantly handed shitty (or a complete lack thereof) requirements from non-technical people. No code lets people figure out that they haven't thought something out nearly as much as they think they have. I no longer am the bearer of bad news. Personally I find this to be part of the Job. The way I look at it i'm the one looking at sites all day, I'm the one caught up on all the latest trends, I'm the one who k…
What I don't find enjoyable is when clients don't have the budget for their grand poorly thought out ideas and refuse to accept a solution which will get them 90% there with 1/10th of the effort.
Re: Show HN: Reddit clone built in no-code in two weeks
#166OP: why did you build it? practice? hn points? hate on the nocode haters? work for bubble? consulting sales? all the above?
i think it's strange that folks are using the "but it's good for rapid/throwaway prototyping/design!" argument.
is it?
if rapid prototyping is the argument for no code, well i get it -- but it's not the marketing i've seen for at least 10 years.
outside of that, the biggest drawback is the cost, with the ever-looming threat that you're going to get pandora'd by the rent-seeking no-code platform (anything you potentially make will just be siphoned off).
i know there are successful no code businesses -- even ones that are not just landing pages for no-code lessons, or no-code consulting, or no-code marketing, or no-code no-coding -- no-code tools really are a blessing for helping to democratize technology a tiny bit.
but if you want to do something that no code tools _should_ be designed for, imo -- namely, prototyping ideas very quickly with an actual fair shot of beating out the big boys -- you can't do it without tons of expertise and money and influence and connections and all the stuff you usually need.
you can't do it, in part, because branding / functionality / performance / etc. is all severely limited.
want to try a new idea?
sure - please go ahead - learn our 'no code' stack, give us $50/mo for your 'hello, world', and if you want to try Idea II, that will be anotehr $50/mo, thanks.
working moms? poor/working class teens? 99% of the population?
getoutttaaheeeere.
Re: Show HN: Reddit clone built in no-code in two weeks
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Hard to meet a person that doesn't at least dislike reddit, but at least old.reddit.com is quite an efficient page. I had an internet outage that left me with a few kilobytes/s upstream/downstream. Most of the modern web was plainly unusable, often requests got terminated before all data was transmitted. But reddit among few other sites did work quite well. Of course not for pictures and media, but the text and comme…
I will only ever use old.reddit. If they take that away, I will kill my account. My account is 15 years old on Reddit, with near daily use.
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Ironically, it seems this clone does a great job of cloning the performance of reddit, at least when I tried it (bunch of unnecessary requests that takes multiple seconds each, sometimes just returning errors)
Just use old reddit. It's fast. On mobile https://www.reddit.com/.compact (with a dot before compact) still works.
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No-code is going to be used in production for sure. It's not something only for sandboxing and prototypes.
My point is that the conversation about such tools is derailed by HN programmers who automatically jump to the conclusion that these products are the wet dreams of non-technical CEOs, who will force their org to go no-code exclusively. If no-code tools are used in production, that implies that it will have to pass QA and code review, just like anything else.
But the definitions for both "production" and "application" are not so black and white. Take a super simple no-code app like a Google form survey. Some people would argue that that is not an app, others would say it is. Is it production? If I send that around to my team of 10 people, there will be no code review or QA. If I send it to 200 customers, then of course I let someone else review it.
Re: Show HN: Reddit clone built in no-code in two weeks
#170I love no code! Wait. Wait. Hear me out... Building software is easy. Changing people's minds is damned near impossible. As an engineer: - I'm constantly handed shitty (or a complete lack thereof) requirements from non-technical people. No code lets people figure out that they haven't thought something out nearly as much as they think they have. I no longer am the bearer of bad news. - I constantly see business peopl…
> I'm constantly handed shitty (or a complete lack thereof) requirements from non-technical people. No code lets people figure out that they haven't thought something out nearly as much as they think they have. I no longer am the bearer of bad news. Personally I find this to be part of the Job. The way I look at it i'm the one looking at sites all day, I'm the one caught up on all the latest trends, I'm the one who k…