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Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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The question must be asked if YC is funding companies based on race then if I created the Netflix for Nigerians where I am from, will they fund me? How do they decide which ethnic group to fund at YC? As a Nigerian this screams of racial profiling, we see our selves as Nigerian first and not black.

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Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Hmm, interesting comment: it could mean either of two opposite things, but that makes it self-contradictory! Just for clarity, when YC funds a company, the goal is not to have it get acquired. It's to have it go public. Acquisition interrupts that, so it's a suboptimal outcome. That said, YC supports what founders want to do.

How many YC companies ended up going public out of the total? And how large is that total? What is the expected timeframe from launch to IPO? How many companies still outside of that window? Those would be interesting stats to have.

Sorry, I don't know the answers—but few so far (fewer than 10 I think). More in the last couple years though. It takes a long time. I'll see if I can convince someone who knows more than I do to comment here.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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These guys don't deserve to have their launch thread turned into the Nth copy, for extremely large N, of a same-old flamewar. That's what you started here, and it was entirely predictable from your comment, which means you broke the site guidelines. Please review them and stick to the rules. This kind of thing is nasty and avoidable. " Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguide…

The guidelines are very far from being an exact science and your comment is too subjective. And even if I started it, it was up to dozens of others to not comment on my comment. Could have just downvoted it to oblivion.

Of course, dozens of others did their share. But commenters are responsible for the statistical outcome of what they post, and in this case the expected value was definitely negative.

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Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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I think like many have pointed out, there's a messaging issue. I want to feel like I'm welcome, even though I'm not culturally black, to consume content created by black creators on a platform that helps promote that content. I like k-pop, I like Bollywood, I like Sister Deborah, I generally enjoy experiencing other culture. I don't need attenuation. One of the strengths of America is the capacity for cultural exchan…

> Edit: Want to also point out that in practice we don't seem to attenuate messaging in black pop culture. It's some of the most explicit sexual and sometimes violent content in existence and it appears all over radio, TV, and the internet. I'm not saying it's exclusively that, but it doesn't seem to suffer from expectation that it be attenuated "for white people". Why do you think that this messaging is what you ass…

I didn’t say those examples are exclusive. I simply said there exists non-attenuated content.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Well I don't disagree there. Maybe I've just spoken sloppily. I wish BlackOak success in their mission. And I hope at some point I can be part of their vision for audience. Everything else I've said can simply be considered feedback, which I think the founder solicited in the OP.

You easily can be part of their envisioned audience. You just have to be interested in video content that is unapologetically centered in Black culture, and that isn't burning any of its narrative fuel trying to make that cultural background feel familiar or especially palatable to other cultures. I think that sounds pretty neat, if they can pull it off with good content.

> You just have to be interested in video content that is unapologetically centered in Black culture, and that isn't burning any of its narrative fuel trying to make that cultural background feel familiar or especially palatable to other cultures.

Yes, I am. I’m not asking for content that caters to me. You don’t have to white wash your content in order to be inclusive. You don’t have to burn any narrative fuel on fragile whites. That would be awful.

I’m asking to be invited to participate. Not on my terms.. on theirs. For me it’s a subtle but significant and important difference.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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> Edit: Want to also point out that in practice we don't seem to attenuate messaging in black pop culture. It's some of the most explicit sexual and sometimes violent content in existence and it appears all over radio, TV, and the internet. I'm not saying it's exclusively that, but it doesn't seem to suffer from expectation that it be attenuated "for white people". Why do you think that this messaging is what you ass…

I didn’t say those examples are exclusive. I simply said there exists non-attenuated content.

I didn’t either. Your phrasing suggest that it’s mostly violent and sexual.

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Yes, it’s very interesting that “X for Women” seems non-controversial to most people, but “X for [underserved group]” brings out the trolls en masse.

I think it’s because gender plays an important roll in society whereas race ~~does~~ should not. Society doesn't benefit from segregating and victimizing. Society does benefit, generally, from a strong female population.

Absolutely, what happened to being judged for the content of your character? Self segregation does nothing to bring people together, now if I want to talk about a cool show I need to make sure I get Netflix for X "race" so I can discuss common shows to relate with X people? This benefits nobody except the people who made this program. It is so easy to "other" people, why do we keep making it easier? Money. Greed. Lambos. Yolo.

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So if all subgroups are subject to slander directed at their subgroup, then why is the answer to further segregate subgroups and create segregated services that only cater to certain subgroups?

> and create segregated services that only cater to certain subgroups I fail to see the "segregated" and "only" parts. Marketing to a particular demographic and reflecting the life experiences of that demographic doesn't mean that other demographics aren't allowed, nor does it mean that nobody else is going to be interested.

I dunno I feel like half this thread would never have even happened if they lead with e.g.

> BlackOakTV - A streaming service promoting content by black creators focused on black culture

instead of:

> BlackOakTV - Netflix for Black people

OP asked for feedback. They can do what they want with it (including ignore it).

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It kind of assumes that all black people will like these kinds of shows, like Nickelodeon assumed that all kids would like their shows. In a world where diversity is so celebrated, I find it odd to try to show black people only other black people. Kids like kids shows because the content is more suited for kids. I know the original poster said they felt good seeing the shows with black people in the 90s, but can't th…

> Honestly when I read the title, I immediately thought, "Drinking fountains for black people." Wow, that is egregious. We ban accounts that stoop to vile tropes like that. I doubt that you intended it that way but you did it anyhow—seriously not cool. If you want to keep commenting on HN, please don't do anything like that again. The gratifying thing is that the commenters who replied to you were so entirely decent.…

Ewww dude. Ew.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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You easily can be part of their envisioned audience. You just have to be interested in video content that is unapologetically centered in Black culture, and that isn't burning any of its narrative fuel trying to make that cultural background feel familiar or especially palatable to other cultures. I think that sounds pretty neat, if they can pull it off with good content.

> You just have to be interested in video content that is unapologetically centered in Black culture, and that isn't burning any of its narrative fuel trying to make that cultural background feel familiar or especially palatable to other cultures. Yes, I am. I’m not asking for content that caters to me. You don’t have to white wash your content in order to be inclusive. You don’t have to burn any narrative fuel on fr…

They should ignore you for now. They're not going to build a business on getting fussy message board nerds to watch Black content. No part of their message should have anything to do with making you feel more welcome, or really feel anything at all.
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