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Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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One thing that struck me was the number of parks they went to. I’m sitting here is a fantastically beautiful state (Western Washington) with so much to offer outdoors, yet I realize I’ve barely explored what is there for free, always opting for expensive dinners or events.

This weekend I’m going to change that, for the first time since covid started we’ll go for a hike in a park.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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I took it as negative because you closed with this: They were offered housing while they get back on their feet and chose not to take it. It's full of implicit accusation that the homeless are difficult, uncooperative, causing their own problems and you can't help them because they are irrational pains in the butt. I interpreted it that way in part because many homeless services are so bad they help keep the problem…

I am wondering why you think a basic income check wouldn’t help anything, because it seems to exactly solve the issue you describe. You sign up for the check (or a lot of the times, get it automatically from the IRS), get it regularly, and buy food with it. Very little bureaucracy compared with food stamps. I agree that one must not call those who rely on the checks entitled and refuse them any further assistance. I…

The amount they are proposing for UBI wouldn't even cover rent in some parts of the US. Or it would barely cover rent in some places with little or nothing leftover. Online conversations about UBI frequently include comments to the effect that "If you had UBI, you could move someplace with lower rent."

It amounts to the latest version of putting homeless people on a bus and shipping them elsewhere so they stop being a local problem.

If rent is lower, it is probably because services are less available. If you need those services, such as specialized health care, telling you "Here's a check. Move someplace where it covers rent." is essentially a big fat fuck you.

We have torn down more than a million SROs and largely zoned out of existence the ability to build new Missing Middle Housing in mixed use, walkable neighborhoods. So you not only need to cover a high rent, you also need to have a car which is another huge expense and another big fat fuck you if you simply can't drive for some reason (as is true for me -- I am handicapped and no longer drive).

If we pass UBI, I believe it will only get harder to convince people to build SROs and Missing Middle Housing and walkable neighborhoods. That would be an important part of actually solving things.

We also need universal healthcare coverage in the US. Medical expenses are another huge hardship in the US.

If it were possible to find cheap housing, live without a car and get medical care without it being a hardship, that would make it possible to live on very little and then most people could make their lives work even if they only worked part-time. Currently, if you can't work full-time at a well paid job with benefits, you can't make your life work and we aren't creating enough jobs of that sort. We are increasingly moving to gig work which would be fine if you didn't need a job with good benefits to get medical care and if you could find a cheap place where living without a car really worked and you mostly can't arrange that in the US.

Throwing money at the problem doesn't fix those systemic issues and likely just makes people in power feel like they did something and don't have to feel guilty while they shirk on dealing with resolving the hard problems because actually fixing anything is hard work and painful and no one wants to actually do that if they can find an easy out like "I cut you check. Stop bothering me."

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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I thought Indians largely looked down on dating, although maybe the times have changed in the last 10 years? I have many close Indian friends and they are all married via arranged marriage. I’m pretty sure their American-born children will not marry via arranged marriage though and they have all come to grips with that. I remember talking with one of my friends about arranged marriage and she laughed in my face when…

"Arranged marriage" in an Indian context doesn't necessarily imply "parents tell you who to marry". In many cases it's essentially parent-involved matchmaking. There may be a professional matchmaker or family astrologer who sources leads. The prospective bride and bridegroom consider multiple or even dozens of options, and discuss their favorites with their parents or other close relatives. The bride/groom visit each…

For a (somewhat fake) introduction to this concept, check out Indian Matchmaking on Netflix.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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India hosts 400% of humans of its healthy capacity; 150 people per sq km. What the world sees is the tip of the iceberg. Someone alien to India might have to spend decades to get all the idiosyncrasies that run here. For starters, good portion of sexual harassments/rapes are not reported. Even unnatural deaths go unnoticed or ignored.

How is this comment relevant to the article?

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Dating never requires money. And no guy should be a free dinner dispenser or ATM for commercial activities for someone he doesn't even know. You can click, talk, walk, dance, and kiss for free... anywhere and everywhere. Besides, dinner and coffee interview dates are too formal and boring.. zzz.

If you can't have a fun conversation over coffee or dinner you probably arent compatible

I meant coffee or dinner are irrelevant and unnecessary to having a fun conversation. Plus, doing the same old thing everyone else does is boring and unimaginative.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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I'm a former military wife. Just trying to explain how military life is different to other Americans was insanely hard. I lived in the same country. I used the same currency. I spoke the same language. Yet my life was not like that of civilians I knew and their underlying assumptions and mine that informed our decisions just did not match up to such a degree that I eventually stopped trying to explain my life choices…

It's not possible to make people understand. You can try it understand others, and some others can try to understand you, but you can't make someone's open their mind if they don't want to.

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Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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Many years ago, I read of a study that measured poverty not in terms of income but with metrics like "How many meals per day do you get?" and "What kind of shelter do you have?" It concluded that less than 1/2 of one percent of Americans were poor by standards in India. When I've repeated that online, on at least one occasion someone who lived in India got mad at me for supposedly promoting negative stereotypes and t…

There’s someone on YouTube I sorta watched from time to time when the pandemic hit. He’s located in Venice beach, German in Venice. He was exposing the homeless issue and lack of government response. Fast forward to now. The city offered everyone a free place to go and many took it. There were still a lot of people who refused. Now the garbage trucks and police evicted them. The garbage people packed a lot of stuff a…

> What’s your take? They were offered housing while they get back on their feet and chose not to take it.

If you are, say, addicted to drugs, and your options are 'Live in sober housing' and 'Live in a tent', is it that surprising that #2 is more appealing?

And before someone suggest 'They should just stop using drugs'. I'd also like to point out that we don't have a miracle cure for addiction, and that there are millions of upper and upper-middle class people with every service and support network, both professional and personal, who are unable to deal with their drug problems. What chance does someone sleeping rough, with nobody in their lives who gives two shits about them, have?

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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I’ve done outreach and volunteer work before. Not sure how you interpreted my reply but it was not a negative question. These topics are of interest to me.

I took it as negative because you closed with this: They were offered housing while they get back on their feet and chose not to take it. It's full of implicit accusation that the homeless are difficult, uncooperative, causing their own problems and you can't help them because they are irrational pains in the butt. I interpreted it that way in part because many homeless services are so bad they help keep the problem…

Doreen,

I only asked the question because I wanted your input from your experience. Most of the people who didn’t want to leave were in various stages of addiction and alcoholism. Addiction is something I know about from my life. Not a fan of UBI. I worked endless hours in the Restaurant industry until I was 27 and got into IT and software development. Not trying to compare to your situation.

Food stamps and health care assistance should absolutely be raised. I have family who struggle with both costs.

Thank you for your blogs and your time.

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post #168

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I took it as negative because you closed with this: They were offered housing while they get back on their feet and chose not to take it. It's full of implicit accusation that the homeless are difficult, uncooperative, causing their own problems and you can't help them because they are irrational pains in the butt. I interpreted it that way in part because many homeless services are so bad they help keep the problem…

Doreen, I only asked the question because I wanted your input from your experience. Most of the people who didn’t want to leave were in various stages of addiction and alcoholism. Addiction is something I know about from my life. Not a fan of UBI. I worked endless hours in the Restaurant industry until I was 27 and got into IT and software development. Not trying to compare to your situation. Food stamps and health c…

Sorry, I'm not trying to be difficult. Sometimes people just have incompatible communication styles and it doesn't go well. (Or it just doesn't go well. Because life.)

Best.

Re: Dating in Delhi when you're poor

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"Arranged marriage" in an Indian context doesn't necessarily imply "parents tell you who to marry". In many cases it's essentially parent-involved matchmaking. There may be a professional matchmaker or family astrologer who sources leads. The prospective bride and bridegroom consider multiple or even dozens of options, and discuss their favorites with their parents or other close relatives. The bride/groom visit each…

For a (somewhat fake) introduction to this concept, check out Indian Matchmaking on Netflix.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Suitable_Girl_(film) was more realistic.
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