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For you first two questions: Spotify will work with Bluetooth, and WhatsApp will have eventual notifications (real-time if the app was recently opened, up to seven hours later otherwise, at least on my device)
If you degoogle yourself but then hook into FB whatsapp, isn’t that just defeating a bit of the point?
CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
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Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
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Man, stuff like this is so depressing to read. Like this is supposed to be a forum for showcasing new tech, projects, etc. What's the point of having this if people in the industry are going to say, "I don't like it because it's not backed by a trillion dollar company". What will change ?
That's not really the point though is it? It's more like 'I do like it.. is it sensible to use it?' At least, that's how I read it, and how I feel about such things. I'd very much like my next phone to run Linux (i.e. be a Pinephone) though.
Why again? Android is already free and open source and Linux doesn't have good answers for the proprietary goodies
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OP didn't say he doesn't like it, just pointing out the reality. But yes, the reality is depressing.
In offering only two choices, when the reality is far more complex than that, GP sets the tone for the rest of the discussion. There are more options, and a far deeper lake of information to use for drawing conclusions, so the simplification is also insulting, on top of being depressing.
Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
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That's not really the point though is it? It's more like 'I do like it.. is it sensible to use it?' At least, that's how I read it, and how I feel about such things. I'd very much like my next phone to run Linux (i.e. be a Pinephone) though.
> I'd very much like my next phone to run Linux Why again? Android is already free and open source and Linux doesn't have good answers for the proprietary goodies
It doesn't need to. The feasible short-term target is feature parity with de-googled AOSP roms, which would still make it plenty useful in a "daily driver" scenario.
Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
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I use f-droid for most of my standard apps (note-taking, calendar, etc) - and since I am not using gmail, those suite of apps are useless to me. I use firefox for my browser, and use the client provided by my email provider. The worst thing is basically not having Google Maps because while fdroid does work, it is not condusive to 'just looking things up real quick'. It's more of a 90's GPS where you pull over, take 5…
> The worst thing is basically not having Google Maps because while fdroid does work, it is not condusive to 'just looking things up real quick'. If you're okay with a closed source navigation app, Magic Earth strikes a balance between Google Maps and FOSS apps such as Organic Maps. Magic Earth uses OpenStreetMap data but layers its own address search on top of it to cover addresses and landmarks that are not availab…
Yeah it's a bug with push notifications I think. I don't care - I think it's a great feature because if I don't hear the buzz, I won't look until my brain decides to check my phone, which can be a long time.
I am looking to move towards a Punkt MP-02 for my next device, but the fact that it's not an open source device that I trust... I hesitate.
Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
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That is a limitation of Lineage only because they choose to cater to users who want root (which usually modifies /system) and to support flashing Google Apps.
Why would having root itself rule out secure boot? It's just that they refuse to offer root themselves, and only as a result of that refusal one has to use system modifications to gain root. In a sense this is the opposite of your claim: they do explicitly not cater to root users.
Furthermore Lineage's official root addon writes to /system. You can't have any additional changes to system or else verified boot won't boot.
You can't have it both ways as it stands.
That isn't to say they are incompatible, you can compile-in root support before the system hashes are generated and then you can have a locked bootloader with verified boot with root support. But you cannot make any additional changes to /system with that root power afterwards.
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Note that the GrapheneOS developer has indicated they are working on getting the Google Play Services apps to run sandboxed like normal apps, without extensive system permissions. This could be quite promising.
This is very interesting. Do you have a link to the post or discussion?
Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
#258I've been using MicroG+Lineage for a few years now. No complaints from me, but I don't use a ton of apps. Not sure what the advantage of CalyxOS would be over my current setup (especially considering Lineage has a much better catalog of supported devices)
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Why would having root itself rule out secure boot? It's just that they refuse to offer root themselves, and only as a result of that refusal one has to use system modifications to gain root. In a sense this is the opposite of your claim: they do explicitly not cater to root users.
Verified boot is only enforcing on -user builds. Lineage ships -userdebug builds. Furthermore Lineage's official root addon writes to /system. You can't have any additional changes to system or else verified boot won't boot. You can't have it both ways as it stands. That isn't to say they are incompatible, you can compile-in root support before the system hashes are generated and then you can have a locked bootloader…
Not a showstopper, as modern root solutions like Magisk support "systemless" root, via file system overlays.
Re: CalyxOS – De-Googled Android Alternative
#260Can you run this on the desktop?