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Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vaccine that you've been forced to take? Please don't turn this into a clown show. The privacy and openness of our computers and devices is paramount to freedom and a strong democracy.

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That's not quite accurate; you both would end up having a "semblance of a normal life" without getting vaccinated, you just would've had to wait a bit longer.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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Apple will release this in their desktop pcs. The major consequence of this is that, a year down the line, microsoft will also be compelled/forced to join this "coalition of the good". After all, they already scan all your files for viruses, it would be a shame if they didn't scan for anything that is deemed incriminating and also call the cops on you. Of course, the children are being used as a trojan horse again. W…

> finding someone possessing CP to automatically considering them a child molester, yet someone posessing an action movie is not considered a murderer

Sure sounds like you're trying to justify child pornography here.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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When I was 13 and my parent made me use a content filter on the web I bypassed it and watched porn and they never found out. On the other hand: Why would I ever want a piece of tech that reports me to the police (even if for legitimate reasons). EDIT: >Anonymous helplines and guidance exist for adults with at-risk thoughts and behaviour [ https://www.apple.com/v/child-safety/a/images/guidance-img__... ] LOL NVM I TRI…

Isn't that most of the internet? I would be surprised if, for example, you didn't get reported by Hackernews if you started making criminal threats or sharing CSAM on here. From the legal tab:

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Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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post #20

Apple will release this in their desktop pcs. The major consequence of this is that, a year down the line, microsoft will also be compelled/forced to join this "coalition of the good". After all, they already scan all your files for viruses, it would be a shame if they didn't scan for anything that is deemed incriminating and also call the cops on you. Of course, the children are being used as a trojan horse again. W…

Windows has been doing this for years. Not with this new tech, but with older methods.

I'm skeptical of the claim that MS has been A: scanning files on local windows machines and B: forwarding anything concerning to law enforcement. That's a fairly extraordinary claim, and I would like to see the evidence.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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It's no coincidence this system launched around the same time the whole NSO scandal broke. The NSO leak shows what government-sponsored exploit analysis against a large tech company may yield. I mean the NSO exploit could've worked the same but been a worm; it could've been absolutely devastating for Apple, imagine something like every phone infected. Something like that was possible with that exploit.

Apple has been a thorn in the side of the IC for a long while. IC probably saw an opportunity to gain a bit of leverage themselves via the whole NSO thing, and likely offered their cyber support in exchange of some support from Apple.

I mean c'mon they've been consistently pressed by IC for tooling like what they just launched; it's the least invasive thing(compared to something like a literal backdoor like that NSA_KEY that MS did for Windows) they can offer in exchange for some cybersecurity support from the gov.

idk if that's what's happened, but it's odd Apple would do this at all, and do it right around the time of the NSO thing.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Do your own research, the 5G implants from the vaccine have a secret server and reverse proxy to let them implant thoughts into you"

I don't know what's more impressive, the fact someone managed to come up with something so ridiculous, or the fact some people actually believe this level of technology exists.

The average Joe has no idea how computing, and tech works. None.

To such a person, a smartphone is a piece of magic. Expecting them to know what is real tech, and what isn't, is not fair.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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post #20

Apple will release this in their desktop pcs. The major consequence of this is that, a year down the line, microsoft will also be compelled/forced to join this "coalition of the good". After all, they already scan all your files for viruses, it would be a shame if they didn't scan for anything that is deemed incriminating and also call the cops on you. Of course, the children are being used as a trojan horse again. W…

Windows has been doing this for years. Not with this new tech, but with older methods.

What are you talking about?

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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There is no such thing as a trustworthy third party and even trusting yourself is questionable at the best of times. We are constantly balancing a bunch of different considerations with regards to the way that we compute, purchase devices, and utilize services. Security and privacy are of course important, and Apple to date has had a fairly good (if shallow) track record in this regard, at least in the United States.

With that being said, what Apple is doing here is just a blatant violation of that 'trust' and certainly a compromise to their commitment to privacy. Under no circumstances is it justifiable to essentially enlist people's devices to police their owners, while using the electricity that you pay for, the internet service you pay for, and the device itself that you pay for to perform a function that is to absolutely no benefit to the user and in fact can only ever be harmful to them.

It doesn't matter that the net data exfiltrated by Apple ends up being the same as before (through scanning unencrypted files on their servers). The distinction is so obvious to me that I find it incredible that people are legitimately arguing that it's the same, or that it in some way this is actually helping preserve user privacy.

As mentioned in the article, this does absolutely nothing towards protecting children other than directing all but the biggest idiots towards platforms that can't be linked to them, which I'd imagine, they already are.

Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vaccine that you've been forced to take? Please don't turn this into a clown show. The privacy and openness of our computers and devices is paramount to freedom and a strong democracy.

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or just get fired if you're a pilot
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