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The vaccine that you've been forced to take? Please don't turn this into a clown show. The privacy and openness of our computers and devices is paramount to freedom and a strong democracy.
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Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view
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Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view
#12When I was 13 and my parent made me use a content filter on the web I bypassed it and watched porn and they never found out.
On the other hand: Why would I ever want a piece of tech that reports me to the police (even if for legitimate reasons).
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>Anonymous helplines and guidance exist for adults with at-risk thoughts and behaviour [https://www.apple.com/v/child-safety/a/images/guidance-img__...]
LOL NVM I TRIED BEING POLITE BUT NUKE SAN FRANCISCO AT THIS POINT TO BE HONEST
this horseshit is why i quit the software industry 10 years ago.
see also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28077491
this is the cancer you are creating
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#13Or inversely, the FBI/CIA/CCP went to Apple and said "it'd be a shame it turned out you were a monopoly". Apple caved to pressure and had to implement this. Whatever the angle, this isn't about protecting kids whatsoever. It's about power.
What a messed up world we live in where money and power are the only things that matter to the people that get to make a difference. But has it not always been this way? The show must go on..
Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view
#14Or inversely, the FBI/CIA/CCP went to Apple and said "it'd be a shame it turned out you were a monopoly". Apple caved to pressure and had to implement this. Whatever the angle, this isn't about protecting kids whatsoever. It's about power.
I think that’s in essence what the author is arguing, at least the outcomes are the same. The only difference is maybe none of the 3-letter agencies had to come out and explicitly say it, when Apple is perfectly competent at spotting a bone to toss.
In other words, the author thinks with Apple’s back to a wall, they only needed to make the announcement of this feature for the government to see there are advantages to apple having tight control as well. Now they’ll be able to make that very same argument in court in a public sense, but there’s always a behind the scenes sense with 3-letter agencies as well.
Granted all of that is speculation and who knows what is really driving any of this. The author does have a point that if this first step causes bad guys to move on from these services then that will be future justification to move the scanning further and further upstream to the point where it’s baked into the API’s or something. At that level, Apple would really need a “monopoly” to accomplish such a feat.
It’s certainly an interesting and creative perspective.
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#15Apple will release this in their desktop pcs. The major consequence of this is that, a year down the line, microsoft will also be compelled/forced to join this "coalition of the good". After all, they already scan all your files for viruses, it would be a shame if they didn't scan for anything that is deemed incriminating and also call the cops on you. Of course, the children are being used as a trojan horse again. We don't even mention the giant logical leap from finding someone possessing CP to automatically considering them a child molester, yet someone posessing ~~an action~~ a murder video is not considered a murderer.
I m just imagining the situation where these companies took the initiative to scan all their users data in a situation like the attach in US capitol this year. Creating new affordances for spying always leads to their abuse in the first chance when an extreme circumstance occurs. So there is no excuse for creating those affordances just "because they can"
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How does vaccine give power to anyone?
"Do your own research, the 5G implants from the vaccine have a secret server and reverse proxy to let them implant thoughts into you"
I don't know what's more impressive, the fact someone managed to come up with something so ridiculous, or the fact some people actually believe this level of technology exists.
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#17When I was 13 and my parent made me use a content filter on the web I bypassed it and watched porn and they never found out. On the other hand: Why would I ever want a piece of tech that reports me to the police (even if for legitimate reasons). EDIT: >Anonymous helplines and guidance exist for adults with at-risk thoughts and behaviour [ https://www.apple.com/v/child-safety/a/images/guidance-img__... ] LOL NVM I TRI…
Then apple will lose market share and correct their ways.
Conversely, what I've seen does put this top of list as a parent. Will notify me if my child is sending nudes. Will notify me if someone is sending porn to my child. Will notify police if known child porn is on the device.
When folks talk about competition - part of this MUST include the USERS preferences (not as currently done the focus of what I see as largely predatory billers and businesses who I don't care about as a user).
I don't want child porn on my systems. Be very happy if apple helps keep it off them.
Are these hash databases available more broadly for scanning (ie, could I scan all work machines / storage using a tool of some sort)?
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#18Or inversely, the FBI/CIA/CCP went to Apple and said "it'd be a shame it turned out you were a monopoly". Apple caved to pressure and had to implement this. Whatever the angle, this isn't about protecting kids whatsoever. It's about power.
What a messed up world we live in where money and power are the only things that matter to the people that get to make a difference. But has it not always been this way? The show must go on..
This is some guy’s theory, and they can’t even spell “anti-trust” (in the headline, no less). It’s not quite enough to lose all trust in society over.
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#19Re: Apple’s new abuse prevention system: an antritust/competition point of view
#20Apple will release this in their desktop pcs. The major consequence of this is that, a year down the line, microsoft will also be compelled/forced to join this "coalition of the good". After all, they already scan all your files for viruses, it would be a shame if they didn't scan for anything that is deemed incriminating and also call the cops on you. Of course, the children are being used as a trojan horse again. W…
Windows has been doing this for years. Not with this new tech, but with older methods.