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Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Honest question, are people outside the domain squatter economy (squatters and their customers) actually paying for .com domains? I’ve never been able to secure a .com for a project, they are all squatted and being sold at a massive (like 1000x+) markup.

Sure am, never had a problem with it. E.g. https://ragdolldynamics.com

The problem is finding a suitable name for a project that also has an available domain. The easy ones are all picked.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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That's incredibly fucked up. The .com contract needs to go out to tender.

I think the huge amount of domain camping implies that .com could stand to be a whole lot more expensive to hold and do nothing with. If you're using it for something important, $20/yr probably isn't going to break the bank. If anything, I think it should be much more.

Even if i agree with you, why should a monopoly get the money? I am sure we can figure a better way to spend it.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Honest question, are people outside the domain squatter economy (squatters and their customers) actually paying for .com domains? I’ve never been able to secure a .com for a project, they are all squatted and being sold at a massive (like 1000x+) markup.

Well the fact that the practice continues suggests to me that someone is spending the money. But I don't know of any examples.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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It's not going to end. Verisign was allowed to increase the wholesale price to registrars for .COM domains by 7% each year in 2020, 2021, 2022, and 2023. Edited: in more detail from thread[0] last year: [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22292348

So are we going to see a raise of alternative DNS roots ? Do modern browsers have integrations for something like that ?

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Honest question, are people outside the domain squatter economy (squatters and their customers) actually paying for .com domains? I’ve never been able to secure a .com for a project, they are all squatted and being sold at a massive (like 1000x+) markup.

Well the fact that the practice continues suggests to me that someone is spending the money. But I don't know of any examples.

It could also indicate that it’s relatively cheap to sit on domains for 20 years, patiently waiting for someone to pony up. It’s not like valuable domains are more expensive to renew.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Is there a price level that would noticably reduce the prevalence of namesquatting? Maybe at $100 or $1000? Is there a price level at which the nerds say "fuck this" and create new domain roots without ICANN?

Namesquatting has the effect of increasing prices so, no, there is no price at which namesquatting would be disincentivized. In fact the higher the prices the more appealing it becomes to our friends on wall street. > Is there a price level at which the nerds say "fuck this" and create new domain roots without ICANN? One without ICANN but what about namesquatting?

> becomes to our friends on wall street.

Perhaps I'm misremembering but domain squatting was an issue for the last 20 years. Before "wall street" got a hold, I'm sure regular people like you and me just bought domains and sat on them for a while.

I know I used to try and guess which domains to buy and hold for some time but by the time I figured it out, those domains were already reserved.

It was also us engineers that figured out you can query ICANN for expiry information so you can catch domains that expire and steal them from other people. Not sure wall street had anything to do with that.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Honest question, are people outside the domain squatter economy (squatters and their customers) actually paying for .com domains? I’ve never been able to secure a .com for a project, they are all squatted and being sold at a massive (like 1000x+) markup.

It's usually pretty easy to get a .com if you're willing to put a prefix like "get" or a suffix like "app" on it or something -- or both ("getbluebirdapp.com" isn't taken). Or combine the brand name with the product class ("bluebirdhumidifiers.com"). Or any non-obvious two-word combo, really.

But yeah, if you want a .com that's a single-word brand name without any prefixes/suffixes, basically everything's been taken for a long time.

Re: Price increase on .com domain names starting September 1, 2021

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the huge amount of domain camping implies that .com could stand to be a whole lot more expensive to hold and do nothing with. If you're using it for something important, $20/yr probably isn't going to break the bank. If anything, I think it should be much more.

Even if i agree with you, why should a monopoly get the money? I am sure we can figure a better way to spend it.

How are they a monopoly? There's literally thousands of TLDs now. It's like saying Apple has a monopoly on iPhones.
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