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A tangential, silly observation. I hear Musk being called "a Steve Jobs" a lot... wouldn't "a Howard Hughes" be closer to the mark? Maybe a generational thing....

The combination of “largest ever”, unusual material, and enormous number of engines definitely evokes the spruce goose. I think the difference is that Elon is clearly building a starship factory instead of a single expensive prototype.

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And unstacked ! It was surprising to see that it only took them about an hour to unstack (I didn't catch the stacking but I think I heard it was around the same amount of time ?). I'm still very perplex about the "catching" mechanism they are designing, Musk mentioned in the Everyday Astronaut interview [1] that it was a very hard problem and I'm very curious to see if/how they can solve it. [1] : https://www.youtube…

I'm sure you've seen this rendering and Elon's response, but I thought I would post it for other's who have not: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1422603106035118085

I had not, thanks ! This seems crazy, I can't wait to see it in action.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is from a live feed just after the stacking point. Humans in monsterously tall cherry picker for scale: https://youtu.be/4B2_dfvRZ4M?t=4945

Gigantic! It looks like one side of the Starship is coated in some black material. Is it some form of thermal plating or just kind of "no-scratch" thing just for stacking?

Thermal tiles, they’re waiting for the rest to arrive

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A tangential, silly observation. I hear Musk being called "a Steve Jobs" a lot... wouldn't "a Howard Hughes" be closer to the mark? Maybe a generational thing....

The combination of “largest ever”, unusual material, and enormous number of engines definitely evokes the spruce goose. I think the difference is that Elon is clearly building a starship factory instead of a single expensive prototype.

While I understand why you'd think of that... not really what I meant (actually, the Spruce Goose hadn't crossed my mind). Hughes as being an aircraft engineer type being involved with running a lot of different businesses seems a closer match than comparison with Jobs.

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Anyone know an estimated static fire/launch date? I'm open to a meetup (and cold beverages under a canopy) within visual distance of the pad.

The FAA will have to conclude its environmental review first, and has warned that they may even order the launch tower to be scrapped:

https://myrgv.com/spacex/2021/07/15/faa-may-not-approve-spac...

https://www.courthousenews.com/as-spacex-races-to-expand-lau...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/spacex-installed-29-...

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And unstacked ! It was surprising to see that it only took them about an hour to unstack (I didn't catch the stacking but I think I heard it was around the same amount of time ?). I'm still very perplex about the "catching" mechanism they are designing, Musk mentioned in the Everyday Astronaut interview [1] that it was a very hard problem and I'm very curious to see if/how they can solve it. [1] : https://www.youtube…

Nice video, thanks for sharing. I liked that bit on requirements:

> Whatever requirement or constraint you have, it must come with a name, not a department. 'Cause you can't ask the departments, you have to ask a person, and that person who's putting forward, the requirement or constraint must agree that, they must take responsibility for that requirement.Otherwise you could have a requirement that basically an intern two years ago randomly came up with, off the cuff and they're not even have the company anymore. But it came from the, let's say, air loads department. They're like, actually there's no one at our current department that currently agrees with that.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you've seen this rendering and Elon's response, but I thought I would post it for other's who have not: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1422603106035118085

Looking at that, surprised they didn't go for a taller tower and some kind of cable arrest system like aircraft carriers have. I'm sure they thought of it.

I am interested as well - terrestrial civil engineering, and associated carbon steel, concrete, and rebar materials, are dirt cheap in comparison to interplanetary aerospace engineering and their alloy or composite materials.

I'd have started my design like a Delta robot or inverted Stewart platform, with a trio of sturdy towers, a catchment ring in the middle, and cables running to large electric motors with massive heatsinks (saltwater?) that could position the ring anywhere in X/Y/Z between the towers. By choosing a site with a low central valley between three natural peaks, you could get a huge amount of volume and not need as high a tower, I hear there's a site over a Puerto Rican sinkhole that recently became available - though be gentle during disassembly of the previous structure, it belongs in a museum....

Engineering is expensive, materials are cheap; always make the process window as large as possible!

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And unstacked ! It was surprising to see that it only took them about an hour to unstack (I didn't catch the stacking but I think I heard it was around the same amount of time ?). I'm still very perplex about the "catching" mechanism they are designing, Musk mentioned in the Everyday Astronaut interview [1] that it was a very hard problem and I'm very curious to see if/how they can solve it. [1] : https://www.youtube…

Nice video, thanks for sharing. I liked that bit on requirements: > Whatever requirement or constraint you have, it must come with a name, not a department. 'Cause you can't ask the departments, you have to ask a person, and that person who's putting forward, the requirement or constraint must agree that, they must take responsibility for that requirement.Otherwise you could have a requirement that basically an inter…

As a "consultant" I fight phantom requirements every day! I can't agree more with this method!
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