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This just makes me sad. We seem to be returning to a segregated society with separate services for every ethnic group. It’s not the “melting pot” idea of America that I was raised with, where everyone contributes their own unique culture to a unified American whole. That was the brilliance of American identity, which is now fracturing at an accelerated rate.

Separate but equal

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I used to believe that media representation didn't matter. After all, fictional characters are fiction, why should I expect them to look like me? Then someone pointed out to me that my favourite super-hero was Spider-Man because Peter Parker is a 20-something loser, just like me.

Yeah people used to say video games and violence on TV had no effect on people -that is was just made up worlds and allowed people to role play, etc… now they are admitting there is influence and it does affect people…

And as time has passed they've found more and more that they were wrong -- where on earth is this comment coming from. Seen so many sources contradicting this over the years.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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This project is a great showcase of what whitelabel streaming providers can do. Back when Youtube and Netflix started streaming, it was a huge deal technically (codecs, infrastructure, cdn). Now companies like uscreen offer this at a flat rate, and they themselves use 3rd-parties (Akamai/Cloudflare) for video storage and distribution.

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You wrote: >> Agree. I could imagine Netflix-for-Turks streaming in Europe for overseas Turks!

Or a Netflix for Gypsys. I've always found it amazing how many Europeans will berate Americans for their discrimination and then turn around and talk about how to best get rid of Gypsys that show up.

I heard it is better to say Roma people now, instead of Gypsys. What do you think? (My old co-worker was from Romania and explained it to me. And I have see positive propaganda adverts in Italy explaining the same.)

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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The concept of "white" is not a consequence of the melting pot idea. The concept of "white" was explicitly born as a way to justify enslaving and treating a group of people as property for generations. If one wants to solve the injustices of the past, its important to actually acknowledge the reality of those injustices and how they feed into modern day. The "melting pot" theory I suspect was always a form of injusti…

Most “white” people in America today were not considered so 100-150 years ago. Irish, Slavs, Eastern Europeans, Italians, Jews, Levantine Arabs, and pretty much everyone other than English, Germans and French. My point is that this identity was expanded to be inclusive in order to build social cohesion. That was a good thing, but now let’s rename it to just “American” and include all ethnic groups, instead of going b…

Most "white" people in America today were never treated like property the way black people have been in america for generations. Most "white" people in America have never dealt with the degree of dehumanization that occurred to black people in America. The degree of what has happened to black people in America is overwhelmingly moreso than any other race save for Native Americans.

It's extremely important to acknowledge that the barriers to social cohesion for certain races are significantly higher than others. We are in living memory where black children had to be accompanied by the military for their protection because they dared attend the same school as white people.

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My only problem with marketing "X for black people" is that marketing "X for white people" isn't socially acceptable.

Except that "for white people" is the default. The minority representation in media is still generally token at best. And, while it may seem like a double standard, when you say something implying that there should be a "x for white people" it sounds like you're saying you're already seeing too much minority representation in media for your comfort or sense of place in society. And if that's the case, know that that…

>The minority representation in media is still generally token at best.

Is this really true, today? I can definitely see that even 10 years ago, but just glancing through Netflix recommendations, I see characters from all over the place. I wonder if anyone has been able to quantify this progress.

>know that that means you have some issues to work out on your own.

Wait, what?

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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Realistically though, how many white people would pay for a platform with all black content, one that they are told is explicitly not for them?

You need to justify how "for " is exclusionary, as opposed to it's normal meaning of "focusing on ".

Saying it is For implies it is not for other groups.

Again, realistically, how many white people would pay for a platform like this? If you think the number is substantial you are delusional. For starters, its being marketed "for black people", its all black content, and other platforms e.g Netflix already have content from black creators (albeit not as focused)

Having said that, they do not need white people to sub to build a viable business. I think it could work - the real secret sauce will be in securing great content naturally. But positioning your business as "$X for black people" does pigeon hole their potential market quite a bit.

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