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“X for black people” sounds so bizarre to me(non-American). The cultural divide between the people must be insane.

I don't know what country you're from but if you don't think there are subcultures in your country under-represented by the dominant media I'd assert you're almost definitely wrong. Perhaps it feels a little strange from the outside that such a subculture is definitively "black" but yeah, that's basically how things are in the US. The country has a deep history of racism and black people being literal slaves, in that…

>I don't know what country you're from but if you don't think there are subcultures in your country under-represented

Where do you draw the line in your definition of "subcultures"? Is it Black/White/Brown? I always feel weird that I'm pigeon-holed into "white", as if I have anything in common with those of Italian or Jewish ancestry.

>The country has a deep history of racism and black people being literal slaves

The USA is astoundingly multi-cultural. Why do you think so many people from around the globe try to get there?

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The concept of "white" is not a consequence of the melting pot idea. The concept of "white" was explicitly born as a way to justify enslaving and treating a group of people as property for generations. If one wants to solve the injustices of the past, its important to actually acknowledge the reality of those injustices and how they feed into modern day. The "melting pot" theory I suspect was always a form of injusti…

Most “white” people in America today were not considered so 100-150 years ago. Irish, Slavs, Eastern Europeans, Italians, Jews, Levantine Arabs, and pretty much everyone other than English, Germans and French. My point is that this identity was expanded to be inclusive in order to build social cohesion. That was a good thing, but now let’s rename it to just “American” and include all ethnic groups, instead of going b…

French-Canadian were too considered like most other catholics as different and undesirable : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_in_Maine

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I feel like this encourages a divide.

Considering there IS a divide, that there is a distinct American Black culture, that has gotten suppressed by way too many of us...

This is a great way to encourage representation and sponsor more content within the culture, for everyone to enjoy as they see fit.

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I guess something to ask is if black content creators are among the most creative, and black consumers are among the most energetic and prolific users, are you only attributing their lack of success(?) on youtube because of algorithms? If it's just a question of likes/subscriptions/shares, then the statement that they are the most energetic and prolific users seems incorrect. If it's something else, can we identify w…

In my experience, questioning the logic behind marketing-speak just gets you more marketing-speak. This seems like a well-intentioned idea, but I doubt it'll actually go anywhere. "x for y group" rarely works, "x without z problem" seems to work a lot better.

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> but suggesting that racism is only racism when the government does it too is a first. I think you've misunderstood this post. This is less like a "white's only" restaurant, and more like an Italian food restaurant. It's supporting a cultural niche, not excluding another.

Now I’m European, so maybe I’m not in the right cultural mindset for this, but your comparison really highlights what is problematic for me: based on someone’s skin colour you are determining their culture/heritage. What does a Nigerian have in common with a Jamaican, apart from the melatonin in their skin? Why would they have similar tastes in media?

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You seem to think there is a monolithic "culture" that needs to be augmented. This has never been the case. There are always a dominant culture that is not necessarily named and multiple subcultures per minority group. Why are folks more sensitive to black sub-culture manifestations in the US vs other minority groups?

America does have a relatively monolithic culture and this translates into its businesses, government, and everything else. This is easy to observe if you live outside of America.

Are you being serious when you say America has a relatively monolithic culture? Relative to whom?

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“X for black people” sounds so bizarre to me(non-American). The cultural divide between the people must be insane.

The US must be sooooo ripped apart by now.

No, it's just mostly triggered white people concern trolling as usual.

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I don't know what country you're from but if you don't think there are subcultures in your country under-represented by the dominant media I'd assert you're almost definitely wrong. Perhaps it feels a little strange from the outside that such a subculture is definitively "black" but yeah, that's basically how things are in the US. The country has a deep history of racism and black people being literal slaves, in that…

It depends on where parent is from. There are a lot of relatively monolithic countries from an ethnic perspective. To the broader point, I think what Uzo is talking about is "representation." Which doesn't just mean "some type of person on the screen." It means the full diversity of experiences and aspirations of that type of person... on the screen. Living Single isn't Friends with African Americans. It's African Am…

There are black family TV shows like Blackish, but the current trend is to mix a black and white character (or family) and then do plots based on the zany differences between the two. Bob Loves Abishola, The Neighborhood, etc. It's cheap and low-quality tv.

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Just from an addressable market standpoint, it seems like you have work cut out for you given that you’ve essentially isolated your product to 13-14% or so of the US population. Not to mention those in that segment that already sub to Netflix , other streaming services etc.

We certainly don't think this will be easy. That said, as you can probably imagine yourself, 13.5% of the U.S. population is a really big TAM on its own. That percentage of Netflix U.S. revenues would make us a very big company. That said, there is competition, and Netflix has black content too. So we will have to differentiate ourselves. As I mentioned in the post, product is one way to do that, and "super-serving" one audience can be a differentiator to when it comes to content, branding, and community. So yeah, we have our work cut out for us, but we're up for it!

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You wrote: >> Agree. I could imagine Netflix-for-Turks streaming in Europe for overseas Turks!

Or a Netflix for Gypsys. I've always found it amazing how many Europeans will berate Americans for their discrimination and then turn around and talk about how to best get rid of Gypsys that show up.

Everyone feels for the plight of the Gypsies, right up until they move caravans onto the park behind your house.
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