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“X for black people” sounds so bizarre to me(non-American). The cultural divide between the people must be insane.

I don't know what country you're from but if you don't think there are subcultures in your country under-represented by the dominant media I'd assert you're almost definitely wrong. Perhaps it feels a little strange from the outside that such a subculture is definitively "black" but yeah, that's basically how things are in the US. The country has a deep history of racism and black people being literal slaves, in that…

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Agree. I could imagine Netflix-for-Turks streaming in Europe for overseas Turks!

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I can't help but feel like everyone commenting here read the headline, brushed straight past the lengthy explanation and went directly to outrage in the comment box. This is a streaming service set up to elevate content by black creators, to make up for the fact that the mainstream media under-represents those people. I'm struggling to see the outrage on a cultural level and on a startup level I can absolutely imagin…

100% agree. How is it racist to offer something as a business, it's not like it's a government or other public project. We already have BET so this is just a similar offering in a different format. "Netflix for black people" might not be a good choice as a tagline, though.

> How is it racist to offer something as a business, it's not like it's a government or other public project

I've seen people suggest that censorship is only censorship if the government does it, but suggesting that racism is only racism when the government does it too is a first.

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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It feels like people (early on in this thread) are more offended because of the chosen phrasing in the title? Are those same people offended by BET?

With the accompanying explanation by Uzo0312, how is this racist?

"For black people" does not mean "Not for any other people". I want to watch great content and if Blackoak produces it, I'll watch it like I would with any other provider.

The fact that they'll encourage and fund more black creators seems like a great thing. I'm sure there are funds out there for women directors, are those sexist?

Netflix for Women focusing on stories with female leads or with female directors doesn't sound offensive to me either.

Good luck with Blackoak, it seems like there is a great market for it and it will elevate black creators.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are only a “minority” because someone decided to come up with a way (race) to divide people into groups where one group is bound to end up smaller, and somehow claim that division is of significant importance. IMO the solution to that problem is definitely not to reinforce that division.

The United States is 76.3% white ( https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219 ), it's not a division it's a number, there are just literally less people of color in the country, a minority of the population.

> "The United States is 76.3% white ( https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219 ), it's not a division it's a number, there are just literally less people of color in the country, a minority of the population."

Will it be racist to continue using this terminology then, once the US reaches 50-50?

Re: Launch HN: BlackOakTV (YC S21) – Netflix for black people

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“X for black people” sounds so bizarre to me(non-American). The cultural divide between the people must be insane.

Yes the country has lost its mind. They’re reconstituting segregation in the U.S. at the moment

Why does "Netflix for Black People" scarily remind me of "Water fountains for Black People". This is horrifying, OP please consider this in your approach.

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“X for black people” sounds so bizarre to me(non-American). The cultural divide between the people must be insane.

Having dedicated cultural venues or channels for a subculture isn't the same thing as like segregated bathrooms. It's more about appealing to a niche audience that isn't lucrative enough for a mass market purveyor. It's not really different from genre channels like sci-fi only or comedy only except that it's geared to an ethnic demographic who want more representation in their media. When a giant company like Netflix is allocating budget for new content, they will get the most returns by appealing to the largest of broadest groups.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> imagine the outrage if someone had made “X for white people”. There’d be riots in streets. The difference between majority and minority is surely not that difficult to comprehend from outside the US?

They are only a “minority” because someone decided to come up with a way (race) to divide people into groups where one group is bound to end up smaller, and somehow claim that division is of significant importance. IMO the solution to that problem is definitely not to reinforce that division.

I'm sympathetic to that viewpoint but as the sibling comment pointed out, America is 76.3% white. If the push is "remove all the divisions, everyone is part of one group" then the interests of the majority within that group will dominate.

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I feel like this encourages a divide.

You do know that conventional TV has had this for ages? Ever heard of BET? Why shouldn’t different cultures have different media that highlights stories that resonate with them?

HN makes me realize why so many black people find the tech world hostile and stay away.

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