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Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by wpietri »

Deukhoofd wrote: post #5
tr33house wrote: post #4

> Contributions are not tax-deductible as charitable contributions Why is this? I thought the Mozilla foundation owned this and it's a non profit

They moved it over to MZLA Technologies Corporation last year, which is a for profit, so they could monetize it. https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-moves-to-monetize-thun...

What in the world? I thought maybe their original statement would make more sense, but no:

https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/01/thunderbirds-new-home/

We received a lot of donations from the community, so we're going to shift to a for-profit footing? That does not make a lot of sense to me.

One of the things I really like about Thunderbird is that it's from a not-for-profit entity. It makes it easier to trust them with so much of my most personal data.

It's still wholly owned by a non-profit, which means I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for now. But especially given the vagueness of that statement, I'm definitely concerned.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by stdbrouw »

MzHN wrote: post #2

>[...] wholly owned by the Mozilla Foundation. Funds will be reserved for use in the Thunderbird project. [...] Why doesn't Firefox have this?

Even if you could donate to Firefox specifically, that's still no guarantee because Mozilla could decide to just channel less money from other sources of funding towards Firefox and you'd end up where you started.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by floor_ »

adar wrote: post #38
floor_ wrote: post #36

I was told to take a hike after reporting a feature regression. So I will not be donating. :(

Do you have a link to the bug report?

I've long since deleted the email updates. It was in regards to them removing semicolons as separators for lists of email addresses. You can only use commas now.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by durnygbur »

Thunderbird is significant tool in my daily workflows. I created multiple profiles for RSS, email, calendar, contacts and usually have multiple instances opened at once. Everything operates smoothly. I would gladly setup monthly fee but also want to have the possiblity to cancel it at any time by the end of the month. This worries me:

> https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/help/

How long it takes to process cancellation of recurring contribution?

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

durnygbur wrote: post #44

Thunderbird is significant tool in my daily workflows. I created multiple profiles for RSS, email, calendar, contacts and usually have multiple instances opened at once. Everything operates smoothly. I would gladly setup monthly fee but also want to have the possiblity to cancel it at any time by the end of the month. This worries me: > https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/help/ How long it takes to process cancellatio…

The link just says they can’t help with technical issues, not donation issues. You can also use a virtual card https://privacy.com/ that you can cancel when you want.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#46

Post by criddell »

spapas82 wrote: post #19

Late versions of Thunderbird have integrated GPG functionality. I have tested and used this extensively and I think it's a required feature that enables most users to have excellent security in their communications. For me, only this would be more than enough enough to switch to Thunderbird as my main mail client!

I recently switched off Thunderbird because the company I work for dropped PGP and switched to Microsoft's OME which is (surprise!) best supported by Outlook.

I don't have the feeling that PGP/GPG is growing in popularity and if that's Thunderbird's big feature, it might not help them.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by inetknght »

stdbrouw wrote: post #42
MzHN wrote: post #2

>[...] wholly owned by the Mozilla Foundation. Funds will be reserved for use in the Thunderbird project. [...] Why doesn't Firefox have this?

Even if you could donate to Firefox specifically, that's still no guarantee because Mozilla could decide to just channel less money from other sources of funding towards Firefox and you'd end up where you started.

That argument is true for every transaction

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by themulticaster »

spapas82 wrote: post #19

Late versions of Thunderbird have integrated GPG functionality. I have tested and used this extensively and I think it's a required feature that enables most users to have excellent security in their communications. For me, only this would be more than enough enough to switch to Thunderbird as my main mail client!

Just a nitpick, but FYI: Thunderbird now has an integrated PGP implementation, but it does not use GnuPG (GPG). Rather they integrated another PGP implementation called RNP. The standard is called OpenPGP, PGP is the original (proprietary) implementation and GnuPG was originally created as a compatible free software alternative to PGP. In previous Thunderbird versions (before 78), the quasi-standard Enigmail extension provided OpenPGP support via GPG.

A side effect of this is that Thunderbird does not interact with your GPG keyring anymore. So if you locally trusted a certain key using GPG for example, Thunderbird won't know about it and will ask you to verify it again.

Sources: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2020/09/openpgp-in-thunderbird-... and https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:Migration-From-...

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#49

Post by abdullahkhalids »

opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

Does Owl allow you to proprly respond (accept/reject) to meeting invites? I am using TBSync and Provider for Exchange ActiveSync and that cannot do so.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

aidenn0 wrote: post #30
opheliate wrote: post #10

I pay for the Owl extension [0] which allows me to use my university's MS Exchange account with Thunderbird. I don't understand why Mozilla don't offer this themselves though, is it too complicated to put the effort in given the size of the userbase? Or is there some reason it has to be proprietary and they're against releasing proprietary software? I really appreciate Owl, but I'd much rather just pay Mozilla direct…

I find davmail to be the best way to access exchange. It connects to exchange and sets up local proxies using pop, IMAP, SMTP, and calDav. Then I can use whichever client I like. Otherwise it's just bouncing between which client has had the exchange plugins updated most recently. As a bonus, it's distributed as a jar, so you can download and run for the latest support, even on an LTS of a Linux distro

How heavy is davmail on the system? I am always a little paranoid about java apps.

Can you accept/reject meeting invites with it? The Tbsync extension that I am using does not have this feature.

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