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Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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I wouldn't call it an antipattern either - it literally does exactly what the programmer wants, but it's definitely a dark pattern. Most of us humans have an urge to finish things, but infinite scroll by definition never finishes. This increases engagement of users by utilizing their psychology, which is basically the definition of a dark pattern. There is an argument to be made that it also increases usability, so i…

Infinite scroll is a tool. Your problem is with pointless dark-pattern ridden attention-grabbing social media using that tool (and rightfully so!). Now imagine a useful application, like an email program. Infinite scroll is useful there. Imagine having a paginated inbox!

Imagine an email program that isn't built with web technology. It could actually display all the items in your mailbox, with a normal and usable scroll bar, without "infinite scroll". I distinctly remember applications being able to display lists in the before-times.

Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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I dare it - turn off JavaScript!? Websites doesn't require JavaScript, what really needs JavaScript are Singe-Page-Web-Apps-Somethings with anti-patterns like infinite scrolling. You get two things in return, a "super duper" fast web and a more secure web-browser. For example Amazon supports usage without JavaScript very well. Another experience is Stackoverflow, things like the preview and highlighting doesn't work.…

I need a WYSIWYG editor, a very simple one for Forum uses. And some sort of Ajax, Pjax function.

I think that covers 90% of my needs. If we could get that without enabling JS. Some function could move back to Server at the expense of more CPU cycle.

Although pushing more features to HTML isn't exactly a great idea either.

Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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So… JIT doesn’t actually improve performance. Nor does virtual DOM. What next? It seems like web browsers and frameworks are full of this cargo cult magic that doesn’t actually work, but must be used because everything else is built on top of it. When can we call this interpreted DOM experiment over and go back to compiled programs on a window API? It seems we’re headed there anyway with WebASM and WebGL, but every p…

I have enabled this setting yesterday and I am unable to tell any difference when browsing my normal websites.

I wonder why JIT was put on in the first place. I mean if it has little to none end-user impact when removing it. JIT sounds like a great deal of doing nothing except for creating 50% of all bugs.

It this a case of JIT was meaningful when first introduced but overtime advances in other area has made this obsolete/redundant?

Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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In fact I do prefer to read books as a large seamless HTML file rather than a paginated PDF file that has cuts (new pages) at arbitrary positions. Now, of course the ideal way to read a book is probably a navigation/outline sidebar on the left, and then the content of the current chapter in the main pane. Kind of like the Rust book: https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/

so you have no problem with a scrollbar that jump to the next chaper when you shift it by a couple of pixels then? Of course why would you have a problem with that, the only navigation one should perform while reading is change chaper, who wants to go to abitrary paragraphs.

what?

Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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so you have no problem with a scrollbar that jump to the next chaper when you shift it by a couple of pixels then? Of course why would you have a problem with that, the only navigation one should perform while reading is change chaper, who wants to go to abitrary paragraphs.

what?

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Re: Microsoft Edge Experimenting with a Super Duper Secure Mode

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Well, like the real reason is that the web is a threat to the app store. So, likely we'd just see some new excuse (if they even bother)

How haven’t they been hit with antitrust action over that?

The antitrust laws are a dead letter.

Facebook buying two of their competitors resulting in crickets.

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