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94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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This probably explains the previously mysterious drop in Delta cases in the UK.

In the U.S. why shouldn't we just shoot for herd immunity now? Not sure how effective restrictions and mandates will be in slowing things down and the costs to mental health and quality of life are so high.

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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I am stunned so few governments publish such "in the wild" data.

The only way to judge the effectiveness of measures is to see how many people have actually been infected, not to count "confirmed" cases.

For instance, it seems only 8.8% is confirmed (or 88k out of 1 million) [1] . Add that to the 69% vaccinated with at least one dose [2], and you get 77.8% accounted for, which is less than the 95% quoted.

[1] - https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

[2] - https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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This probably explains the previously mysterious drop in Delta cases in the UK. In the U.S. why shouldn't we just shoot for herd immunity now? Not sure how effective restrictions and mandates will be in slowing things down and the costs to mental health and quality of life are so high.

I wouldn't say we are shooting for it, but it looks like we are heading that direction.

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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This probably explains the previously mysterious drop in Delta cases in the UK. In the U.S. why shouldn't we just shoot for herd immunity now? Not sure how effective restrictions and mandates will be in slowing things down and the costs to mental health and quality of life are so high.

The US doesn't have a choice to shoot for herd immunity because the remaining willfully unvaccinated population is both anti-mask and anti-vax.

EDIT: Guess I worded that badly. What I mean is: choosing herd immunity is inevitable, so there is no choice. It will happen.

EDIT2: It didn't occur to me that there is a huge risk if more deadly mutations happen faster than herd immunity.

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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This probably explains the previously mysterious drop in Delta cases in the UK. In the U.S. why shouldn't we just shoot for herd immunity now? Not sure how effective restrictions and mandates will be in slowing things down and the costs to mental health and quality of life are so high.

The US doesn't have a choice to shoot for herd immunity because the remaining willfully unvaccinated population is both anti-mask and anti-vax. EDIT: Guess I worded that badly. What I mean is: choosing herd immunity is inevitable, so there is no choice. It will happen. EDIT2: It didn't occur to me that there is a huge risk if more deadly mutations happen faster than herd immunity.

That means they will be infected and subsequently immune, boosting herd immunity

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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post #4

I am stunned so few governments publish such "in the wild" data. The only way to judge the effectiveness of measures is to see how many people have actually been infected, not to count "confirmed" cases. For instance, it seems only 8.8% is confirmed (or 88k out of 1 million) [1] . Add that to the 69% vaccinated with at least one dose [2], and you get 77.8% accounted for, which is less than the 95% quoted. [1] - https…

Remember this includes vaccinated persons

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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post #4

I am stunned so few governments publish such "in the wild" data. The only way to judge the effectiveness of measures is to see how many people have actually been infected, not to count "confirmed" cases. For instance, it seems only 8.8% is confirmed (or 88k out of 1 million) [1] . Add that to the 69% vaccinated with at least one dose [2], and you get 77.8% accounted for, which is less than the 95% quoted. [1] - https…

Remember this includes vaccinated persons

Yep, just realized and edited.

Re: 94% of English adults have Covid antibodies, ONS data shows

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This probably explains the previously mysterious drop in Delta cases in the UK. In the U.S. why shouldn't we just shoot for herd immunity now? Not sure how effective restrictions and mandates will be in slowing things down and the costs to mental health and quality of life are so high.

Herd immunity (through vaccines) was always the goal, but I guess that's not what you mean?
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