Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone tomorrow

Post by jsjohnst » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 4:22 PM UTC

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> Simple nudity does not count inherently. That’s not entirely true. If a police officer finds you in possession of a quantity of CP, especially of multiple different children, you’ll at least be brought in for questioning if not arrested/tried/convicted, whether the images were sexualized or not. > nor would it ever end up in a database That’s a bold blanket statement coming from someone who correctly argued that NC…

>That’s not entirely true That's why I said it's not inherently illegal. Of course, if you have a folder called "porn" that is full of naked children it modifies the context and therefore the classification. But, if it's in a folder called "Beach Holiday 2019", it's not illegal nor really morally a problem. I'm dramatically over-simplifying of course. "It depends" all the way down. >That’s a bold blanket statement Yo…

Post by yibg » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 4:23 PM UTC

keyme wrote: post #221

Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

Post by zepto » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 4:29 PM UTC

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Is it? That’s just something the tweets have read in. The message could equally well be ‘We won’t become an easy political target by ignoring a problem something most people care about like child porn, but we are going to build a point solution to that problem, so the public doesn’t force us to bow government surveillance requests.’ It’s easy to nod along with an anti-Apple slogan, but we need to consider what would…

If Apple thought this kind of dragnet was a losing political fight that tells me they've become too weak to stand up to unreasonable government demands. Where is the company that won the public opinion battle over unlocking a mass shooter's phone?

Post by slumdev » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 4:33 PM UTC

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keyme wrote: post #221

Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

Great, so what's the solution? What are you doing to fix it? Do you roll your own silicon? Do you grow your own food (we have no idea what someone could be putting in it)? Are you completely off-grid? Or are you as completely dependent on society writ large as everyone else? Making holier than thou comments about everyone else being sheep isn't helpful or thought provoking. Offer an alternative if it is a bad one (lo…

Post by biztos » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 4:35 PM UTC

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This is a moot point unless you always verify and check all hardware and software that you use, including communications devices.

I don’t think that’s his point. The point is Apple made a laptop that did away technologies that allow PC ecosystem/choices we see today. The M1 MacBook feels like an iPhone, but sized as a laptop.