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Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
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Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#22It was unexpected but still somehow expected since many of them were already overworked before covid hit. Turns out the healthcare systems didn't get overloaded by just the virus, but also the years or decades old issues bubbling under the surface. Nurses all the way in Finland are voting with their feet as well. Management that isn't up to par, working hours, pay... David Graeber's essays about how caring work is bo…
Yup, news reports about "hospitals are 90% capacity" or whatever is a business decision by design. They might have a couple more floors available but no staff for them because they aren't scheduled, because patients aren't there. They proactively cut staff wherever possible and then try to react.
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Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#23It was unexpected but still somehow expected since many of them were already overworked before covid hit. Turns out the healthcare systems didn't get overloaded by just the virus, but also the years or decades old issues bubbling under the surface. Nurses all the way in Finland are voting with their feet as well. Management that isn't up to par, working hours, pay... David Graeber's essays about how caring work is bo…
Yup, news reports about "hospitals are 90% capacity" or whatever is a business decision by design. They might have a couple more floors available but no staff for them because they aren't scheduled, because patients aren't there. They proactively cut staff wherever possible and then try to react.
There are not enough nurses, and aren't enough doctors sitting idle right now to hire up in the way that you're suggesting...
and if you thought spinning up a chip fab in Texas is taking too long, wait until you try to solve the problem of spinning up more doctors. the residency program that takes up years of their schooling relies on having other doctors mentor them.
Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#24I am an EMT and talk to a lot of nurses, PAs, and physicians in various circles. This wave is worse for a few reasons. - Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. Nobody can muster any more compassion, especially for these people. Patients and people at large, not even just the total-nutjob anti-vaxxers, are tired of restrictions. "…
You know you're getting a bad deal when politicians start calling your profession "heroes".
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#25All the lockdowns started because we didn't want to overwhelm the hospital system. In the US, the hospital system, at least the ERs were already running on fumes. Our politicians have decided it's better to play world police and kill people overseas than invest in community hospitals. All the billions handed out to the vaccine companies and the propaganda machines, but no investment in increasing hospital capacity. T…
> In the US, the hospital system, at least the ERs were already running on fumes
>but no investment in increasing hospital capacity
Agree, where did all the billions go? The most expensive healthcare on the planet and we can't find the money to scale and expand a year and a half later.
Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#26Good for them. Despite the mantras of "support our frontline workers" many of these employees have been treated like shit by their employers[1], their government who refused to take measures to limit the spread, and their patients - some of whom will continue to actively deny COVID even as they die from it. [1] https://www.nwahomepage.com/knwa/mercy-employees-frustrated-...
If a company cares about you, it is shown in money. The People and Culture guy is a snake oil salesman meant to scam you.
I think you're underplaying non-financial incentives.
I would rather have a job that pays $X but offers flexible work hours and vacation time that allows me to be a better parent, than a job that pays $1.5X but won't let me take a day or afternoon off to (e.g.) take my kid to the doctor, etc.
Granted, that probably applies more to WFH desk jobs than front-line nurses.
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#27I dont know how you can take CNN seriously, they've repeatedly been show to suppress real information and promote single cases to support a narrative. They've even been caught bragging about this.
Regarding capacity, hospitals are designed to run at 90% capacity -- the state literally limits the number of hospitals in regions to ensure this is the case (i.e. hospitals stay profitable). ICU capacity is often at 100% and if you know anyone working in ICUs (I have multiple family members) this isn't new.
That being said, they will increase turn-over by reducing their current care level, etc.
Also should note, I can't help but feel this focus on Florida, Texas, Arkansas, etc is because they have banned masks and vaccine mandates.
If you look at actual hospitalizations and more importantly death rates you see something different: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi...
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#28I've never worked as a nurse or doctor but it's hard to imagine what they go through. Every day they deal with people in serious pain, people with traumatic injuries, rude people, rude people with traumatic injuries, screaming children and babies. Apparently nurses in particular are also routinely disrespected by higher-ups, put in danger by higher-ups, and don't get paid much.
In college I heard insane stories from the nursing majors. Apparently going on shifts working 72+ hours non-stop is the norm. Imagine spending 72 hours in that hell: delivering this guy's meds, then checking this guy's blood pressure while he berates you, then typing in some paperwork, then giving this baby lab work while he's screaming, then doing more paperwork, etc. for 72 hours straight. I can't imagine it, I can barely imagine spending more than 3 hours.
Anecdotally, the few times I've been to doctors' offices and hospitals, I always notice the stress on doctors. Doctors and nurses are rushing everywhere, and they try to act nice but are simultaneously drained of emotion from disrespectful patients and general fatigue. Ironically sometimes they don't look that healthy, with all due respect, probably because of the immense stress and that it's hard to fit in exercise when you work 12-hour overnight shifts.
Also, I live in Massachusetts where hospitals haven't been near capacity for some time now. Everything I described is just regular operation, pre-Covid.
Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#29I am an EMT and talk to a lot of nurses, PAs, and physicians in various circles. This wave is worse for a few reasons. - Healthcare staff have great animosity towards the unvaccinated patients. They aren't victims here, they did this to themselves. Nobody can muster any more compassion, especially for these people. Patients and people at large, not even just the total-nutjob anti-vaxxers, are tired of restrictions. "…
Vaccination rates are extremely poor among Nurses and other healthcare staff[1], poorer than the general population you seem to imply they despise for lack of vaccination.
[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2021/06/28/covid19-va...
Re: Hospital exec says employees are walking off the job
#30All the lockdowns started because we didn't want to overwhelm the hospital system. In the US, the hospital system, at least the ERs were already running on fumes. Our politicians have decided it's better to play world police and kill people overseas than invest in community hospitals. All the billions handed out to the vaccine companies and the propaganda machines, but no investment in increasing hospital capacity. T…
> All the lockdowns started because we didn't want to overwhelm the hospital system. In the US, the hospital system, at least the ERs were already running on fumes. Our politicians have decided it's better to play world police and kill people overseas than invest in community hospitals.
America had more ER capacity than I think any other country on the planet. Perhaps due to a lack of preventative medicine? I don't know, but it shouldn't be due to lack of ER capacity that this is happening.