Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone tomorrow

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:01 PM UTC

franciscop wrote: post #419

keyme wrote: post #221

Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

I don't think this is a fair characterization; it should not be most people's life goal to fight for their privacy against big companies. Some people make it theirs, and that's fine, but I think it's def not something to expect from most people, in the same way that you don't expect everyone to be actively fighting for clean tap water or drivable roads. Instead, we as a collective decided to offload these tasks to th…

Post by andy_ppp » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:02 PM UTC

r721 wrote: post #360

andy_ppp wrote: post #329

How easy is it to generate an image that has the same “perceptual hash” or whatever that are calling it? My guess is it has to be easier than cracking a non fuzzy hash? Do we know the algorithm they are using?

No, it's undisclosed: >Hashes using a new and proprietary neural hashing algorithm Apple has developed, and gotten NCMEC to agree to use. >We don’t know much about this algorithm. What if someone can make collisions? https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/14230792585163448...

Post by ajconway » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:03 PM UTC

yyyk wrote: post #435

bayindirh wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you avoid Apple, what's the point of M1? - (Potentially) programmable top notch security chip with no overhead encryption - Fanless (Air), cool running, fast processor with very low power consumption - All metal body - Top notch HiDPI screen with color accuracy. - Top notch sensors - Excellent, illuminated keyboard - Big trackpad with pressure sensitivity and taptic engine - Excellent battery life - Excellent ba…

Nearly all the HW items have equivalent or superiour replacements, and a fair amount are dependent on the Apple ecosystem. Without Apple's ecosystem it's a good system but overpriced, and that's before you run into Linux compatibility problems. For example, take the monitor - there are monitors with higher refresh rates or more resolution (Retina does 'only' 6K). Also, Mac OS colour processing has no good equivalent…

Post by bayindirh » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:04 PM UTC

yyyk wrote: post #435

bayindirh wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you avoid Apple, what's the point of M1? - (Potentially) programmable top notch security chip with no overhead encryption - Fanless (Air), cool running, fast processor with very low power consumption - All metal body - Top notch HiDPI screen with color accuracy. - Top notch sensors - Excellent, illuminated keyboard - Big trackpad with pressure sensitivity and taptic engine - Excellent battery life - Excellent ba…

Nearly all the HW items have equivalent or superiour replacements, and a fair amount are dependent on the Apple ecosystem. Without Apple's ecosystem it's a good system but overpriced, and that's before you run into Linux compatibility problems. For example, take the monitor - there are monitors with higher refresh rates or more resolution (Retina does 'only' 6K). Also, Mac OS colour processing has no good equivalent…

Post by Razengan » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:07 PM UTC

xyzal wrote: post #326

keyme wrote: post #221

Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.