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I'm really conflicted about this. For context, I deeply hate the abuse of children and I've worked on a contract before that landed 12 human traffickers in custody that were smuggling sex slaves across boarders. I didn't need to know details about the victims in question, but it's understood that they're often teenagers or children. So my initial reaction when reading this Twitter thread was "let's get these bastards…

- Don't you want to get the terrorists? - Yea yeah - Great. Give me access to every part of your life so i know you're not a terrorist.

“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.” I always think about this Orwell quote and think it’s up to us to try to fight for what is good, but we were too busy doom-scrolling on Twitter to do anything about it.

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Devices with radio capabilities (i.e., all mobile devices) must be designed to prevent executing "unauthorized" software.

What do you mean, authorized by whom? The software applications I run have not been greenlit by any third party. Think about a model in which you code, than wait for authorization before deployment... The worst pulp novel. What exactly are you talking about, the OS?

Ah, you were never exposed to RIM's blackberry signing servers... Those were not the days. I'm glad they were slowly snuffed out of existence.

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Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

This sort of scanning has existed for well over a decade, and was originally developed by Microsoft (search PhotoDNA). The only thing that's changed here is that there is more encryption around, and so legal guidelines are being written to facilitate this, which has been happening for a long, long time. (I don't disagree with your overall point, and child porn is definitely the thin edge of the wedge, but this isn't…

That's a very strong frog slowly boiling attitude.

"It's been happening for a long time already, the only difference now is a 0.1 degree increase", says the frog while being boiled alive.

Re: Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone tomorrow

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Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.

Not too lost 'cause you can run Linux on M1.

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Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

This sort of scanning has existed for well over a decade, and was originally developed by Microsoft (search PhotoDNA). The only thing that's changed here is that there is more encryption around, and so legal guidelines are being written to facilitate this, which has been happening for a long, long time. (I don't disagree with your overall point, and child porn is definitely the thin edge of the wedge, but this isn't…

Nothing is ever new. You can always find some vague prototype of an idea that failed to become ubiquitous ten years ago.

When I read that this shouldn't be surprising, it has an aftertaste of "Dropbox is not interesting/surprising because ftpfs+CVS have existed for well over a decade"

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Dear humans, 1) You willingly delegated the decision of what code is allowed to run on your devices to the manufacturer (2009). Smart voices warned you of today's present even then. 2) You willingly got yourself irrevocably vendor-locked by participating in their closed social networks, so that it's almost impossible to leave (2006). 3) You willingly switched over essentially all human communication to said social ne…

The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.

FYI: M1 Macs can run Linux.

Re: Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone tomorrow

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The fact that even the 'smart' people from HN can't wait for their new M1 laptop to arrive convinced me that humans are a lost cause.

Not too lost 'cause you can run Linux on M1.

Until the manufacturer decides otherwise.

Re: Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone tomorrow

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We also saw the police query "check-in" databases which were pitched to the public as "for contact-tracing purposes only". Scope creep is inevitable.

Source? Most of these systems didn't disclose location.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-15/safewa-app-sparks-urg...
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