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Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

the_duke wrote: post #75
yongjik wrote: post #72

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Some points in that page don't seem like valid criticism. Like, complaining that the compiler is not "zero dependency" on Linux, because it depends on glibc? Also, allocating a fixed 1000 byte region at the start of a program is not a "memory leak". In fact even glibc has tons of such "initial fixed cost" allocations - IIRC valgrind has built-in "suppression file" to ignore these allocations. (It would be a memory le…

IIRC one of the original claims was to skip libc and do syscalls manually, like Go used to do on Linux. So listing it makes sense in that context.

That sounds more like a bugfix. Doing syscalls manually is a rather perverse exercise, which go thoroughly proved.

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by pwdisswordfish8 »

amedvednikov wrote: post #67
rozab wrote: post #58

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The best bit is this excerpt from the standard library (2019): fn download_file(url, out string) { // println('\nDOWNLOAD FILE $out url=$url') // -L follow redirects // println('curl -L -o "$out" "$url"') os.system2('curl -s -L -o "$out" "$url"') // res := os.system('curl -s -L -o "$out" "$url"') // println(res) } Here's what that file looks like today: https://github.com/vlang/v/blob/master/vlib/net/http/downloa...

No, this file is no longer used. We have a fully working net module: https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net/http

In that case, you ought to be mocked for making a mess of the repository by keeping unused files in it.

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by chousuke »

pwdisswordfish8 wrote: post #102
amedvednikov wrote: post #67

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No, this file is no longer used. We have a fully working net module: https://github.com/vlang/v/tree/master/vlib/net/http

In that case, you ought to be mocked for making a mess of the repository by keeping unused files in it.

Come on, that's just mean.

I don't really understand the negativity against V; is there something wrong with setting crazy goals if you're actually working towards them?

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

nemo1618 wrote: post #55
crazy_horse wrote: post #44

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Could someone explain to me why, after seeing how many exaggerated claims the author has made, they have invested their time into building up a community around it? I'd be straight up terrified to trust anything serious with this guy's work. In this instance, the demo won't even load for me and the documentation page can't be bothered to put the most basic of padding in it. Why even release publicly? Promises, promis…

I confess that I've found it both enraging and depressing to see that the "bootstrapped-by-hype" model works even in programming language development , which I had (naively, I guess) assumed would be more immune to that sort of thing. I suppose the field is composed of fallible humans just like any other.

You can't even imagine, just wait until you run across C++.

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

lbotos wrote: post #2

Unfortunately this will probably run afoul of Git's trademark: "In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a third-party product or service without Conservancy's written permission. For the avoidance of doubt, this provision applies even to third-party marks that use the Marks as a syllable or as part of a…

EcmaScript all over again. As I understand, letter reversal doesn't count?

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

#106

Post by GoblinSlayer »

abdusco wrote: post #48
aorth wrote: post #26

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Strange. What about GitLab and Gitea? And probably others.

In the case of Gitea, an argument could be made that it's actually `gi•tea`, not `git•ea` :)

Gitea is a portmanteau, which is explicitly covered.

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #16
throwaway889900 wrote: post #10

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Isn't that what Fossil does? https://www.fossil-scm.org/

Yes, but I honestly hate the idea of having to learn yet another SCM. I may reconsider at some point though, especially if more implementations emerge.

First time I hear about it. What alternative implementations git has?

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

#108

Post by osmarks »

andrewnc wrote: post #50
crazy_horse wrote: post #44

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Could someone explain to me why, after seeing how many exaggerated claims the author has made, they have invested their time into building up a community around it? I'd be straight up terrified to trust anything serious with this guy's work. In this instance, the demo won't even load for me and the documentation page can't be bothered to put the most basic of padding in it. Why even release publicly? Promises, promis…

My honest opinion (as someone with no dog in this fight) is that the author was naive and really bad at PR, but is improving overtime. I generally encourage new programming language efforts, so I'm willing to be more generous with forgiveness in the hopes that this succeeds.

They made hugely exaggerated/false claims while raking in lots of Patreon money.

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by Cavallium »

amedvednikov wrote: post #100
Cavallium wrote: post #49

Looking at gitly repository it almost has no features, only a fraction of the basic git features are present, and they are barely working. Why is it being advertised here on HN as a fast alternative of github/gitlab? P.S.: Probably the website crashed, it's giving me 502 bad gateway from cloudflare

502 was fixed. I'm actually surprised it handled a front page HN traffic spike on a $3 VPS. That was a good test of V/vweb.

Now it's online

Re: Gitly: A light and fast GitHub/GitLab alternative written in V lang (pre-alpha)

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Post by vlang0dot2 »

penagwin wrote: post #33
lazypenguin wrote: post #15

V and it's creator get a lot of flack here on HN and the criticisms are probably warranted. However, I personally enjoy seeing them out here hustling and really trying to make their language succeed despite all the shortcomings. As someone who skews more apathetic, I enjoy seeing people driven by so much passion. Now, it's time for me to be one of those critics! It's easy to promote the speed and size of your github…

> V and it's creator get a lot of flack here on HN and the criticisms are probably warranted. Hi fellow Penguin :D! I'm impressed by the creator's dedication here too, but he's clearly biting off more then he can chew - he's been saying that he's making a * Web framework * GUI framework * SQL ORM * A language that has a lot of promises - seriously checkout their list. * Github alternative * VIM alternative This stuff…

the main issue is that most V projects never go past prototype phase :)
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