It's the Huffington Post, so I can't believe what the reporter is saying. To be fair, it's an opinion piece. But, with intentionally misleading statements like "I am angry that the tragic scenes of prior surges are being played out yet again, but now with ICUs primarily filled with patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated.", it's hard to keep the eyes from rolling out of their sockets. I haven't heard of any ICU…
See Florida for filled ICUs.
I’m an ICU Doctor and I Can't Believe What Unvaccinated Patients Are Saying
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Re: I’m an ICU Doctor and I Can't Believe What Unvaccinated Patients Are Saying
#32It's the Huffington Post, so I can't believe what the reporter is saying. To be fair, it's an opinion piece. But, with intentionally misleading statements like "I am angry that the tragic scenes of prior surges are being played out yet again, but now with ICUs primarily filled with patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated.", it's hard to keep the eyes from rolling out of their sockets. I haven't heard of any ICU…
Hospitals are in fact struggling... again...
Florida hospitals postpone elective surgeries as another record set for COVID-19 daily admissions https://www.pressherald.com/2021/08/04/florida-hospitals-pos...
Louisiana Doctors Cancel Brain Aneurysm Surgeries to Deal With Influx of COVID Patients https://www.newsweek.com/louisiana-doctors-cancel-brain-aneu...
COVID cases, other factors push Las Vegas hospitals to limit https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/covid-ca...
Covid-19 Patients Overwhelm Busy Hospitals as Delta Variant Spreads https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-patients-overwhelm-bus...
Re: I’m an ICU Doctor and I Can't Believe What Unvaccinated Patients Are Saying
#33It's the Huffington Post, so I can't believe what the reporter is saying. To be fair, it's an opinion piece. But, with intentionally misleading statements like "I am angry that the tragic scenes of prior surges are being played out yet again, but now with ICUs primarily filled with patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated.", it's hard to keep the eyes from rolling out of their sockets. I haven't heard of any ICU…
Los Angeles county, where the doctor who wrote the piece is based, currently is at 70% capacity for ICU. Which is not as bad as the last peak, when it was 93%, but is not great, and it's trending upward. https://covidactnow.org/us/california-ca/county/los_angeles_...
Which is typical. What you're referring to is part of the hype campaign of the last year. Hospitals' ICU are _normally_ at about 70% occupancy. The data below is from 2010, in fact.
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-hospitals-...:
"The national average I.C.U. occupancy in 2010 was 67 percent, according to the Society of Critical Care Medicine, though the occupancy baseline changes depending on the place, time of year and size of hospital. "
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#34Hard to read this it’s just way too editorialized by the author. We get it you’re mad about the pandemic and how it’s handled. Supposedly being a doctor gives you more credibility but only on vaccinations not on public health policy. Anyway im sick of reading articles with no other point than to make you mad. But its HP what can you expect. Edit: not really going to argue with anyone my point stands. Just another stu…
IMO Most of the "unvaccinated" are that way because they've already had covid and would rather be part of the control group for this large experiment. I just don't buy articles like this for the reason you stated.
A colleague of mine just lost his best friend. It was the second time he had the virus. They think it was two different variants.
Something like 2.4 billion people have had at least one shot of vaccine. How many more need to before you think its safe?
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#35This reads like a fluff piece to hype a “pandemic” who barley killed as much people as the diarrhoea has in the same lapse of time.
Not a single word about treatments other than artificial ventilation. Ivermectin as controversial as it may be but also antibody therapy seem to be completely ignored in this article just as in most hospitals.
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#36Folks - if someone you know is not vaccinated at this point in time (in the US) - it's entirely on them if they get sick. And guess what - they already know this, made that decision, and nothing you rant and rave about is going to change it. Quit trying to drum up some mandatory vaccine rhetoric - or villianize these people. Just leave them alone and go about your life in whatever way you think is appropriate for you…
A gentle reminder that no children under 12 have been vaccinated yet, and so the behavior of unvaccinated adults affects more people than you're talking about here.
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#37Pretty odd article to see from fellow doctor and someone who gets angry at stuff like this probably should find another career. Is she angry at the patients who abused their bodies all their lives, resulting in their inpatient stay? All the heart failure patients who simply refuse to follow simple instructions that would keep them out of the hospital? I just looked, 42% of the patients on our inpatient floor with COVID-19 were vaccinated (this is a small hospital, so I'm not making any conclusion based on that).
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#38Folks - if someone you know is not vaccinated at this point in time (in the US) - it's entirely on them if they get sick. And guess what - they already know this, made that decision, and nothing you rant and rave about is going to change it. Quit trying to drum up some mandatory vaccine rhetoric - or villianize these people. Just leave them alone and go about your life in whatever way you think is appropriate for you…
A gentle reminder that no children under 12 have been vaccinated yet, and so the behavior of unvaccinated adults affects more people than you're talking about here.
Statistics seem to imply children under 12 are nearly 100% safe (so far). This is a major reason the vaccine hasn't been prioritized for children.
If children were at serious risk here, a children vaccine would have been prioritized long ago - well before we prioritized getting vaccines to the 75 and older age group.
The entire duration of the pandemic has seen such a miniscule amount of infected children - and even fewer with serious symptoms or death - that it's absurd to base policy on this. It's statistically far more likely children will die on their way to school than become ill and experience serious complications.
We should stop basing policy off likelihoods which are prefixed by multiple zeros.
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#40It's the Huffington Post, so I can't believe what the reporter is saying. To be fair, it's an opinion piece. But, with intentionally misleading statements like "I am angry that the tragic scenes of prior surges are being played out yet again, but now with ICUs primarily filled with patients who have chosen not to be vaccinated.", it's hard to keep the eyes from rolling out of their sockets. I haven't heard of any ICU…
See Florida for filled ICUs.
The numbers as reported by the NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html
The political pushback is going to be an enormous factor. Gov. DeSantis panders to the GOP ignorant; this is, after all, Trump's home state.