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Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Where by "ultra fast" it is meant that it is much slower than a directly-attached SSD that occupies the same port.

That SSD has 0 redundancy so you're trading the purpose of the NAS by going for speed. If that's what you want, then you're wasting time looking at NAS equipment anyways.

So what's your point?

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Not to take away anything from the fun of figuring out Thunderbolt on Linux, and such. But, I wonder if a NAS with a 40 Gbps or even 100Gbps NIC hooked up to a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter would achieve a better result without extra effort.

probably, but thunderbolt would cost 5x less for equivalent 40Gbps NIC

This has not been my experience -- I use both thunderbolt 3 and Mellanox ConnectX-3 40gbps cards, and have been looking for an excuse to add a Mini M1 to the homelab.

The cables and cards for PC Thunderbolt retrofit are far (like 3-5X!) more expensive than the MLNX cards and optical cables.

$0.02 :)

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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post #5

Where by "ultra fast" it is meant that it is much slower than a directly-attached SSD that occupies the same port.

That SSD has 0 redundancy so you're trading the purpose of the NAS by going for speed. If that's what you want, then you're wasting time looking at NAS equipment anyways. So what's your point?

Most SSDs have a lot of redundancy in the form of multiple flash chips, it's just not exposed to you, the user, by the controller chipset.

There are also PCI-E x16 with multiple NVMe slots. There's nothing stopping some company from making something similar for Thunderbolt.

And I guess the cost is too high and the connectors would be too bulky, but it would be nice to have something like a SODIMM for flash that separates the memory from the controller.

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this blog uses webp as image format without a fallback option. Had to switch to Firefox because Safari wouldn't display the pictures.

Odd. Displays fine on my Safari 14.1.2. Checked and the images do appear to be web for me as well. Current Big Sur release, not a Beta.

Safari 14.1.2 on latest Catalina doesn't render

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Not to take away anything from the fun of figuring out Thunderbolt on Linux, and such. But, I wonder if a NAS with a 40 Gbps or even 100Gbps NIC hooked up to a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter would achieve a better result without extra effort.

The fastest thunderbolt to ethernet adapter I could find is 25 Gbps and it's $1500. 10 Gbps ones are in the $200+ range as well.

Buy an eGPU enclosure and put a NIC in that?

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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post #7

Not to take away anything from the fun of figuring out Thunderbolt on Linux, and such. But, I wonder if a NAS with a 40 Gbps or even 100Gbps NIC hooked up to a Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter would achieve a better result without extra effort.

The fastest thunderbolt to ethernet adapter I could find is 25 Gbps and it's $1500. 10 Gbps ones are in the $200+ range as well.

For 10Gbe it’s slightly cheaper if you go to SFP+, but then you need sfp cables. I went this route as they are also cooler. Then I got sick of Thunderbolt finicky config and went for cheap Mellanox PCI cards which are truely excellent and basically zero config.

The dongle is QNAP QNA-T310G1S Thunderbolt 3 to 10GbE Adaptor, US$169 on Amazon.

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Just yesterday I was thinking how badly I want an obscenely fast local datastore for Docker. I am managing a handful of clients right now who are all using Docker containers for their microservice environments and my local machine runs out of disk daily.

What I really want is lightning quick network storage, but I don't think it would be feasible to roll out 10g networking in my current rental home.

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Odd. Displays fine on my Safari 14.1.2. Checked and the images do appear to be web for me as well. Current Big Sur release, not a Beta.

Safari 14.1.2 on latest Catalina doesn't render

Only safari on big sur has webp support.

Re: Ultra fast Thunderbolt NAS with Apple M1 and Linux

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Just yesterday I was thinking how badly I want an obscenely fast local datastore for Docker. I am managing a handful of clients right now who are all using Docker containers for their microservice environments and my local machine runs out of disk daily. What I really want is lightning quick network storage, but I don't think it would be feasible to roll out 10g networking in my current rental home.

10gbe can be done over RJ45 with a direct cable connection and is something I've done before in a pinch between my personal NAS and a client machine (just be careful about your storage protocol because NFS has its pros and cons just like iSCSI and FCoE, and with macOS as a client you're likely in for a Bad Time like I did).
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