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Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

When you use a lot of contractor developers, being able to provision out devices for temporary work is powerful. A lot of time is spent provisioning machines, white listing ips, setting up VPNs, and getting the contractor to the point where they can work. In some cases I've seen it take 2 or 3 weeks to get a contractor up and running on a 6 month contract.

Being able to give them credentials to a machine that's ready to go is pretty huge.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

I think the thing we are missing here is... What was the capacity to begin with? If they have capacity for 1000 machines... that's not particularly impressive, nor does it show that it's really popular. The fact that they're leaving the numbers out makes me think this is a hype piece to make everybody think it's more popular than it is... but I dunno.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

They are bundling the IaaS hardware with the price of the MS software stack subscription. You need to net out the cost of standalone windows and office from the monthly price. At the lower hardware tiers, it's a bigger percentage of the price.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/business/compa...

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Anyone else developing on a Mac/Linux desktop, and looking at Windows 365 to run/test/prototype windows applications?

Windows 365's lowest tier, with only 2GB of RAM, works out to $288/year. If you're on a Mac, you can grab the Pro version of Parallels for $99USD/year and run it locally, and spin up an instance of any version of Windows you need, along with guaranteed uptime and availability.

I really don't see Windows 365 as a viable option for most developers, when there are so many better -- and cheaper -- alternatives readily available.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

When you use a lot of contractor developers, being able to provision out devices for temporary work is powerful. A lot of time is spent provisioning machines, white listing ips, setting up VPNs, and getting the contractor to the point where they can work. In some cases I've seen it take 2 or 3 weeks to get a contractor up and running on a 6 month contract. Being able to give them credentials to a machine that's ready…

Yes the answer must be something like this. You can implement BYOD throughout the organization.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Anyone else developing on a Mac/Linux desktop, and looking at Windows 365 to run/test/prototype windows applications?

You could, but with how inexpensive/frictionless a local hypervisor is, it seems like an expensive way to test.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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> including one at the top end that includes eight vCPUs, 32GB of RAM, and 512GB of storage for $158 per month Why is it so popular? I can't understand the economics of it. Can someone explain? Why would I pay ~$10k over 5 years for something that's similar to the laptop I'm typing on which costed me $700 used? I know it's for businesses, but even then, does it come with tooling or something that makes management eas…

When you use a lot of contractor developers, being able to provision out devices for temporary work is powerful. A lot of time is spent provisioning machines, white listing ips, setting up VPNs, and getting the contractor to the point where they can work. In some cases I've seen it take 2 or 3 weeks to get a contractor up and running on a 6 month contract. Being able to give them credentials to a machine that's ready…

I still didn't get how bare Windows VM can speed up a new developer on-boarding. In all my jobs slowest part was always familiarization with a new build/deploy environment. OS/Laptop setup was always trivial and took 1-2 day max, even in orgs with 20k employees.

Re: Microsoft pauses free Windows 365 cloud PC trials after ‘significant demand’

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Anyone else developing on a Mac/Linux desktop, and looking at Windows 365 to run/test/prototype windows applications?

Windows 365's lowest tier, with only 2GB of RAM, works out to $288/year. If you're on a Mac, you can grab the Pro version of Parallels for $99USD/year and run it locally, and spin up an instance of any version of Windows you need, along with guaranteed uptime and availability. I really don't see Windows 365 as a viable option for most developers, when there are so many better -- and cheaper -- alternatives readily av…

If I would have to pay $100-$200 for the software subscriptions for my Windows VM (windows license, office) it gets close? Especially if Microsoft is also throwing in some hardware so my local computer is taxed less? Of course streaming a cloud desktop introduces its own problems (latency, unreliability, etc) but also advantages (portability, reproducibility, etc)
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