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Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by floatingatoll » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 3:54 PM UTC

Oddskar wrote: post #139

floatingatoll wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, because there’s no benefit to their business to invest time switching it to USB-C, and significant upsides to existing customers if they continue using Lightning. What use case do you envision should be higher priority to Apple’s customers than being able to recharge their keyboard, trackpad, and phone from a single Lightning cable left plugged into their desktop computer’s USB port?

Maybe getting rid of all the e-waste generated by having a proprietary standard that is not used anywhere outside the apple ecosystem? I think that's quite a compelling reason.

Changing the charging cables for a billion phones to reduce E-waste would be an effective way to turns billions of perfectly good cables into E-waste. Do you feel it would break-even within ten years?

Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by nomel » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

NikolaNovak wrote: post #75

unfunco wrote: post #66

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Is it? I personally think it makes more sense there, it replaces the eject button (is that an eject symbol? It's been a while since I've had to care about eject) – and it matches the button position on the laptops, e.g. above the backspace button.

There's more than one way to look for consistency: in terms of key it was next to, or overall position on physical item. In other words: "It was above delete button" vs "It was in top right corner of the device" From my personal usability perspective, FWIW, there's a difference between "Go to physical corner of a device" and "hunt for a very specific place in the middle of keyboard", but preferences differ.

My muscle memory wants things to stay where they are relative to one another. With it at the top right extreme, I would have to remember which computer I was at, since that location changes relative to all other keys.

Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by headShrinker » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 4:16 PM UTC

SmellTheGlove wrote: post #48

alfonsodev wrote: post #11

There is also a larger version with numeric keypad. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK2C3LL/A/magic-keyboard-...

But why the hell is the Touch ID sensor _not_ in the top right corner there? I agree with the other poster that said apple design is in the tank right now. Man that is awful.

> But why the hell is the Touch ID sensor _not_ in the top right corner there?

It _is_? What am I/are you missing here?

> apple design is in the tank right now

There have been a diverse group of trolls screaming this for about 40 years. Meanwhile they are only the best by default. Don’t like it? Make something better

Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by Oddskar » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 7:26 PM UTC

floatingatoll wrote: post #141

Oddskar wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe getting rid of all the e-waste generated by having a proprietary standard that is not used anywhere outside the apple ecosystem? I think that's quite a compelling reason.

Changing the charging cables for a billion phones to reduce E-waste would be an effective way to turns billions of perfectly good cables into E-waste. Do you feel it would break-even within ten years?

I don't think you're factoring in that many of those cables would need replacements during the lifetime of the device they're used with.

So yes, I think that it would "break-even" quite fast.

Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by Terretta » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 12:37 AM UTC

wintermutestwin wrote: post #38

Why isn't there a version with the touchpad??

Twelve South and other firms used to make gizmos to pair the then no-numpad version and trackpad so they'd work on your lap or as a Mac Mini living room media center accessory etc.

Was fantastic. Apple should MagSafe that jazz.

Re: Apple Makes Magic Keyboard with Touch ID Available for Purchase

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Post by NikolaNovak » Thu, Aug 05, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

nomel wrote: post #142

NikolaNovak wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's more than one way to look for consistency: in terms of key it was next to, or overall position on physical item. In other words: "It was above delete button" vs "It was in top right corner of the device" From my personal usability perspective, FWIW, there's a difference between "Go to physical corner of a device" and "hunt for a very specific place in the middle of keyboard", but preferences differ.

My muscle memory wants things to stay where they are relative to one another. With it at the top right extreme, I would have to remember which computer I was at, since that location changes relative to all other keys.

Shows again how different people are :)

I suppose it depends what your muscle memory is coded to?

To me, muscle memory would be coded to "find top right extreme of device, then back off a little". I suppose yours night be "find delete key, go a bit above" or "this far from home row".

(normally home row might be what I'd key too as well, but turning on and fingerprinting device is typically before I settle on home key in my workflow - I. E. I might not even be fully sat down...)