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Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by amadsen » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:45 PM UTC

ChemSpider wrote: post #12

MisterSandman wrote: post #3

The link leads to a reddit post, which leads to another reddit post, which leads to this article in Swiss: https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/hsg-und-china-kritik-auf-twitter-... I can't read Swiss... but the comments on Reddit seem to show that this isn't as cut and dry as the title makes it sound. Quoting /u/hamsterman20: > "First of all, he was going to a chinese university with a chinese scholarship. > He left the swiss…

> it isn't like a Swiss Student randomly tweeted about the CCP and got kicked out. Based on the original article, it is pretty much exactly like that. The newspaper talked to both sides and clearly believes the student over the professor. It seems everything else are excuses by the Prof and the university (which has plenty of cooperations with China). Now, if the student was technically enrolled at the University or…

The NZZ, for what it is worth, is probably the most highly regarded newspaper in Switzerland when it comes to journalistic integrity. It has a clear political bias to the right, but very high credibility.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by keewee7 » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:46 PM UTC

China is quickly becoming an entity that cannot be criticized.

Here in Denmark the authorities confiscated Tibetan flags among peaceful protesters because someone in the Chinese embassy was offended.

The Danish police has had a few problematic incidents in the past but confiscating flags from peaceful protestors is unheard of.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by goldenkey » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:50 PM UTC

octonion wrote: post #55

agucova wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have evidence for this from a reputable source?

Of course he doesn't, as it's complete nonsense.

Chinese mouthpiece paid US newspapers $19 mn in ads, printing: https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/chin...

Please refrain from reactionary insults like calling chrissnell's comment "nonsense." It's in poor taste even if you're supported by others who don't bother to perform even cursory research.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

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Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by thinktankie » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

shikoba wrote: post #68

ompaLompa wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Source: Adrian Zenz or some other US military industrial complex sponsored think-tank like ASPI [1].

Very reliable, trust me, you can trust them.

[1] https://www.aspi.org.au/sponsors

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by oytis » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:51 PM UTC

johnnyApplePRNG wrote: post #43

Talk about the Streisand Effect... [0] There were less than 10 people following or presumably reading Gerber's tweets. Now 10 million+ people will read them. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Oliver Gerber is not a real name, it would be not trivial to find his twitter account. Not quite impossible too, but still too much hassle for most people (myself included).

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:55 PM UTC

spoonjim wrote: post #63

temp8964 wrote: post #22

Deep down in the reddit comments there is a statement from the university, which mentioned "The former supervisor's desire to clearly distance herself is understandable when an accusation of racism is in the air." Some other comments also mentioned a "racist cartoon". It is also mentioned in the report: https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spot... > The writer accuses Gerber of a «racist attack on…

Of course the CCP wouldn’t, only the West is capable of the self-own that is modern Victim Culture.

cough Cultural Revolution cough

Or was that sarcasm?

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by echopurity » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:56 PM UTC

bigbillheck wrote: post #56

Meanwhile in America: https://www.universityworldnews.com/post.php?story=201908301...

There are probably a million more examples from USA.

There's a whole industry opposed to accurate education alone:

https://reason.com/2019/09/06/alabama-dean-jamie-riley-resig...

https://time.com/6075193/critical-race-theory-debate/

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by ompaLompa » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:56 PM UTC

thinktankie wrote: post #75

shikoba wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Source: Adrian Zenz or some other US military industrial complex sponsored think-tank like ASPI [1]. Very reliable, trust me, you can trust them. [1] https://www.aspi.org.au/sponsors

Nope but nice diversion. Clearly I triggered a filter looking for propaganda keywords.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide wikipedia is blocked in china. Please refute the 477 sources at the bottom of the page individually.

The holocaust happened, the Uyghur genocide is still happening.

Re: PhD student in Switzerland expelled after criticizing the CCP in Twitter

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Post by shadowgovt » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

temp8964 wrote: post #22

Deep down in the reddit comments there is a statement from the university, which mentioned "The former supervisor's desire to clearly distance herself is understandable when an accusation of racism is in the air." Some other comments also mentioned a "racist cartoon". It is also mentioned in the report: https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-students-dismissal-spot... > The writer accuses Gerber of a «racist attack on…

If I'm an employee at a company and post something like that on Twitter, nobody should be surprised if I suddenly find myself in the unemployment line because (perhaps unbeknownst to me) my company was right in the middle of closing a big deal with a Chinese company.

Not saying it's morally correct, but those are the dynamics in play here. A university is an organization, and while the incentives and financial structure is different from, say, a manufacturing corp, the general principle of "your members will be dealt with if they burn bridges for the larger organization" applies.