The irony is so thick, it is palpable. Leftist politics suggest that criminals should have a second chance and be able to reintegrate into society. But do something completely legal that I don't like, and you're cancelled forever.
"criminals should have a second chance and be able to reintegrate into society" Is this not part of the definition of justice? Most crimes (high and low) only required some form of punishment and perhaps reform. After the balance has been restored why wouldnt those people fully reintegrate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice
I didn't say criminals being able to reintegrate was a bad thing. I'm simply pointing out the apparent double-think here.
I'm excited for accountability to catch up to the Internet, for far too long people have been able to poison the well. Now, when you say something, you have to stand by it. This is a good thing, and I hope more things like this come soon.
So what happens to a persons social credit when they prepped for this situation, and then when their score tanked then go and perform a mass shooting at the building of the people who score them?
This creates a system of people who numerically can identify they have absolutely nothing left to lose.
The irony is so thick, it is palpable. Leftist politics suggest that criminals should have a second chance and be able to reintegrate into society. But do something completely legal that I don't like, and you're cancelled forever.
You're asserting that those two things are ironic/opposite/hypocritical, but you haven't explained why. Legal consequences and social consequences can't serve the same seat in an analogy without some serious explanation.
They're both social consequences. Criminals who have served their time and are released often have a lot of trouble finding work or renting because of their criminal history. Liberal people often decry this as unjust.
So now we're looking at doing the same thing, but to people who have never been given any sort of due process. And somehow _that_ is okay?
The irony is so thick, it is palpable. Leftist politics suggest that criminals should have a second chance and be able to reintegrate into society. But do something completely legal that I don't like, and you're cancelled forever.
You all keep calling things being cancelled when they're just plain old social ostracism of the past. Why can't you all just admit you don't like it when someone else does the social ostracizing instead of giving it a new fancy word to distance yourselves from the same behavior you all do?
Should I take this comment to mean that you are not against the sort of blackballing that happens to people with criminal histories? I mean, it's just social ostracism, right? Why would we have a problem with people not being able to find a place to live or work?
Ostracism was democratic process, there was a vote and majority decided. "Cancellation" is nothing like that.
How is the 'cancellation' any less democratic? It seems more democratic than a majority deciding for everyone, if each person decides for themselves whether to avoid or not.
Cancellation suffers from social pressure. If the mob cancelled someone then you have to, too, otherwise you're canceled next.
You all keep calling things being cancelled when they're just plain old social ostracism of the past. Why can't you all just admit you don't like it when someone else does the social ostracizing instead of giving it a new fancy word to distance yourselves from the same behavior you all do?
Should I take this comment to mean that you are not against the sort of blackballing that happens to people with criminal histories? I mean, it's just social ostracism, right? Why would we have a problem with people not being able to find a place to live or work?
You should read my other comments. But for clarity sake, no I don't support blackballing, at-will employment, and the like. I just want to point out that supposed cancelling hasn't done a blessed thing in the instances that celebrities who say actual bad things publicly. The closest thing I can recall that cancelling has done anything is what happened to James Gunn and Kathy Griffin for their supposed misdeeds (cringe-worthy nonsense but nothing I'd care about even in the worse of times). But over all supposed cancel culture hasn't done much other than annoy celebs who are chronically online (they need to get use to the jeering in the peanut gallery rather than pretend that social media is a polite society).
This doesn't seem avoidable to me. At some point, we all have to make a decision whether to buy into the brave new world or to separate from it. I guess that's the real value of Trump. It was essentially an unremarkable Presidency but a whole lot of cards got turned face up.
Its pretty much the opposite of Brave New World because our elite .1% are not the genetic best they are mostly inbred mutants ashamed to admit their parentage it a lot more like the real life story of the Roundheads vs the Cavaliers. But you don't have to take my word for it you can read all about them in your local library.
Digging through the rhetoric, it seems they're complaining that companies are exercising their freedom of association to not associate with people who storm congress?
The irony is so thick, it is palpable. Rightist politics suggest that criminals should be locked away and have their right to reintegrate into society stripped when they are let out. But if there are social consequences to my actions, it's because of cancel culture.
As an independent, I am horrified by the behavior of both leftists and rightists. You all have lost your damn mind.
I know you didn't claim otherwise, but it's important to remember that one can be horrified by the behavior of people on the left and right as a person on the left or right.
Strange game. The only way to win is not to play. Post something today that is acceptable and the powers that be decide tomorrow that it is offensive and your life is ruined.
The true irony is this type of behavior is what drives people to be even more conservative. Why be open or have fun (even if it's krass at the time, naively unaware it could be bad in the future). So now people who aren't bleeding hearts will more than likely only post content that is generic. Then all the bleeding hearts will complain nobody is willing to stand up for justice when these very people are the same ones…
That will end up killing the platform. No one wants a feed of gray rocks and witch hunting.