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MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by basisword »

It will be interesting to see how this kind of thing plays out. I’m sure it’s quite distressing if a tool like this is used on your photo and then potentially shared in your friendship group. Hopefully we very quickly get to the point that nobody will ever be able to know if a photo is real or fake and it’s just not considered an issue therefore. Policing it seems like it would be extremely difficult. Maybe we police the intent? In other words you can produce the images but if you use it maliciously against a person then there is a crime.

Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by have_faith »

basisword wrote: post #2

It will be interesting to see how this kind of thing plays out. I’m sure it’s quite distressing if a tool like this is used on your photo and then potentially shared in your friendship group. Hopefully we very quickly get to the point that nobody will ever be able to know if a photo is real or fake and it’s just not considered an issue therefore. Policing it seems like it would be extremely difficult. Maybe we police…

I'm wondering if there are existing laws that would cover the intent part. Defamation and harassment laws etc. Maybe they just need amending. Trying to police the apps exact functionality directly seems counter productive.

Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by judge2020 »

have_faith wrote: post #3
basisword wrote: post #2

It will be interesting to see how this kind of thing plays out. I’m sure it’s quite distressing if a tool like this is used on your photo and then potentially shared in your friendship group. Hopefully we very quickly get to the point that nobody will ever be able to know if a photo is real or fake and it’s just not considered an issue therefore. Policing it seems like it would be extremely difficult. Maybe we police…

I'm wondering if there are existing laws that would cover the intent part. Defamation and harassment laws etc. Maybe they just need amending. Trying to police the apps exact functionality directly seems counter productive.

I wonder as well, there have been people putting their friends or adversaries’ heads on nude model bodies ever since photoshop came out. Is that a crime and has it ever been prosecuted (maybe for defamation)?

Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by prepend »

Looking forward to seeing how this resolves.

I remember when deepfakes first was released there was a group who would deepfake coworkers, Facebook friends, etc for a really low cost (like $100) as long as the target had a few hundred public photos.

This is without consent as well, but it’s also not real. It seems like the equivalent of imagining people nude. Kind of creepy if I know it’s happening but not truly a violation of my privacy.

Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by hardlianotion »

prepend wrote: post #7

Looking forward to seeing how this resolves. I remember when deepfakes first was released there was a group who would deepfake coworkers, Facebook friends, etc for a really low cost (like $100) as long as the target had a few hundred public photos. This is without consent as well, but it’s also not real. It seems like the equivalent of imagining people nude. Kind of creepy if I know it’s happening but not truly a vio…

It's blurry but I think in a way it is a violation of privacy in a similar way that other forms of harassment are.

It's not quite the equivalent of imagining people nude as there is an artefact that can potentially cause its own pain when distributed.

Re: MP Maria Miller wants AI 'nudifying' tool banned

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Post by Nextgrid »

I think outlawing this tool would be counter-productive.

One of the reasons nudes being released is damaging is because it's a rare enough and noteworthy event. If because of this tool everyone has nudes of them floating around then it would become a normal thing and would actually remove most of the damage around real nudes leaking by providing plausible deniability (assuming anyone ever cares at this point - if the world is drowning in nudes of everyone, the real thing will probably go unnoticed anyway).

Outlawing the tool wouldn't actually stop malicious usage of it but because only criminals would use it it would make its (rarer) usage more damaging than if anyone could legally use such a tool and nudes stop being a noteworthy event.

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