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My small revenge on Apple

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Re: My small revenge on Apple

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Post by bloniac »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #6
bloniac wrote: post #3

Apple really has locked down its ecosystem. It’s kinda depressing that there isn’t more choice and competition in the mobile space. Your choices are Android and apple.

As someone who owns multiple Apple devices and is generally pretty happy with their hardware and services, I agree. I wish there was at least a third option, if not more competition in this space. RIP Windows Phone, WebOS, Meego, Firefox OS, et al

They all got beaten because Apple and google thrashed them in all the ways that mattered.

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #6
bloniac wrote: post #3

Apple really has locked down its ecosystem. It’s kinda depressing that there isn’t more choice and competition in the mobile space. Your choices are Android and apple.

As someone who owns multiple Apple devices and is generally pretty happy with their hardware and services, I agree. I wish there was at least a third option, if not more competition in this space. RIP Windows Phone, WebOS, Meego, Firefox OS, et al

Competition is no longer possible these days, as banks, towns, etc. start to require an _unrooted_ Android/iOS device for basic operations (e.g. authorization of credit card operations, paying taxes and fines, COVID stuff, etc.).

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Post by collaborative »

gregoriol wrote: post #7

While the grudge against Apple is real and has been discussed time and time again, the revenge described here is a joke: no-one will seriously use a web version when an app is available, the experience is really not as good, the findability is not there and for many apps device-features will be missing.

I used to agree with this. That was before I developed the web version and was able to compare real performance. Web (WASM) beats both Android and iOS native apps. Only downside is initial data transfer (1.2MB). A bit funny since the iOS app is 20MB and the Android one is 5MB

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

snemvalts wrote: post #5

I wouldn't obsess over the design of Apple's "Sign up with Apple" button, if the default darkmode just applies an inverted filter (inverting Google's and Facebook's logo in addition to the UI), and paddings and margins are all over the place.

Someone else was complaining about Apple rejecting their app, over the Sign In With Apple feature. They cast it as “kafkaesque.”

They showed a screengrab of their app, and they had altered the design of the button, by filling it with gray (I agree that Apple’s choices are fugly). The writer couldn’t understand why Apple kept rejecting their app, and Apple’s rejection reason was not helpful at all (we often need to read tea leaves to figure out why our apps were rejected. It’s because they have a limited selection of canned responses).

Recoloring a branding element will definitely trigger a rejection. The Apple Brand is the most valuable brand in the world, and they won’t brook having it reinterpreted. No corporation would allow this, if they had a choice.

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Post by tdjsnelling »

snemvalts wrote: post #5

I wouldn't obsess over the design of Apple's "Sign up with Apple" button, if the default darkmode just applies an inverted filter (inverting Google's and Facebook's logo in addition to the UI), and paddings and margins are all over the place.

Right? A different colour border on the Apple button should be the least of OPs design concerns here...

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Post by Toutouxc »

> The best way to convince Apple prisoners is to tell them what they need. Trust must only belong to Apple. Give them your money, your will, your worship, your everything. Apple will keep you safe

> Perhaps Apple customers deserve the luxury of "choice" (between different Apple devices, of course)

I don't understand the tone. Do these people actually not understand that different people have different preferences and priorities? Or is it a pose of some kind? I mean, it's 2021, Apple has been on fire pretty much continuously since 2007, they're making a killing everywhere they go and they're, as we speak, pulling off the biggest and smoothest on-the-fly architecture transition ever.

Is it still not clear to some people that Apple users genuinely enjoy using Apple devices and that the company clearly does something right?

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Post by pabs3 »

zdkl wrote: post #14
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who owns multiple Apple devices and is generally pretty happy with their hardware and services, I agree. I wish there was at least a third option, if not more competition in this space. RIP Windows Phone, WebOS, Meego, Firefox OS, et al

FfOS would have been a great alternative. I kinda still hope that a similar software setup (boot to browser, sandbox all the things to there) will one day be flashable to any generic handheld device, like older Android phones or the Pinephone.

FirefoxOS still exists as the proprietary KaiOS, and the open fork of it, GerdaOS.

https://gerda.tech/

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