NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restaurants, Gyms and More

Post by babesh » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 7:55 AM UTC

himinlomax wrote: post #48

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Also it is psychotic to vaccinate kids right now. We don’t have a good sense of the long term side effects of the vaccine. We usually figure that out with long term trials lasting years.

Yes we do. There are hundreds of vaccines, none have long term side effects. There was some suspicion regarding one flu vaccine and narcolepsy, but it's been mostly ruled out and is entirely due to the peculiar etiology of that disorder, not the vaccine as such (the virus it targets is the known trigger for that autoimmune disorder).

Post by himinlomax » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:21 AM UTC

babesh wrote: post #52

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Yes we do. There are hundreds of vaccines, none have long term side effects. There was some suspicion regarding one flu vaccine and narcolepsy, but it's been mostly ruled out and is entirely due to the peculiar etiology of that disorder, not the vaccine as such (the virus it targets is the known trigger for that autoimmune disorder).

You are wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.... Go look at the Cutter incident. It killed 10. Seems like the long term side effect that you claim does not exist. “ In 1955, some batches of polio vaccine given to the public contained live polio virus, even though they had passed required safety testing” Go look at the rotavirus incident. “ The results of the investigations showed that Ro…

Post by babesh » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:25 AM UTC

himinlomax wrote: post #49

babesh wrote: post #37

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You do know how the vaccine works right? The virus still infects you and quite possibly reproduces for awhile. It is just that your immune system has been primed to recognize the virus and kill off cells that have been infected. In other words, vaccinated people can still spread the virus. https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immu...

Vaccinated people can still catch the virus, die from it and spread it. Just like non drunk people can still kill people with their cars. The point is that they're much less likely to do so, just like being sober makes you less likely to commit vehicular manslaughter.

Post by babesh » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:28 AM UTC

dagsdgfhdgdj wrote: post #54

babesh wrote: post #52

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You are wrong. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.... Go look at the Cutter incident. It killed 10. Seems like the long term side effect that you claim does not exist. “ In 1955, some batches of polio vaccine given to the public contained live polio virus, even though they had passed required safety testing” Go look at the rotavirus incident. “ The results of the investigations showed that Ro…

> Go look at the Cutter incident. It killed 10. Seems like the long term side effect that you claim does not exist. Not to mention what could happen if someone messed up and injected bleach instead of the vaccine. You have to go back over 60 years and even then only find issues caused by manufacturing problems, i.e., cases where not the intended vaccine was injected...

Post by himinlomax » Wed, Aug 04, 2021, 8:30 AM UTC

babesh wrote: post #56

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What a terrible example. You're taking as an example a case where a production defect resulted in contamination by the disease itself. The long term side effects are not caused by the vaccine as a vaccine, they were those of the disease a faulty vaccine contained. It boggles the mind how anyone can find this a compelling argument, but that's par for the course for antivaxers. Your second example is a short term effec…

Bowel obstructions kill you clown. Seems like a long term side effect to me.