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NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restaurants, Gyms and More

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Re: NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restaurants, Gyms and More

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Post by mindslight »

version_five wrote: post #15
ctvo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Home schooling your children too? School districts requiring vaccination records for all sorts of things. What invasion of privacy. It’s like they do it to protect other children.

Not sure I see the equivalence between showing my kids have their childhood vaccines before they go to school and having to flash a vaccine pass every time I go to the gym or to eat. Honestly I would rather it was mandated by government and then assumed (not that I think that is compatible with western rights) than having to show this kind of information on request to businesses as I go about my day. Most people here…

ID requirements are draconian, but they are a straightforward reaction to the anti-vax reality-denying hysteria. As a libertarian, this whole saga has been a double punch. When people throw out "freedom" as a justification for their terrible (and ultimately herd-following) decisions, it maligns and undermines the concept itself. And it lets the authoritarians step in and take credit for what should have been common sense.

Drawing a parallel with a different topic - while I believe that drugs shouldn't be illegal, that doesn't mean I would support my friends being junkies. And I certainly wouldn't encourage people to become junkies just to spite the current unjust laws.

Re: NYC to Require Proof of at Least 1 Dose Indoors at Restaurants, Gyms and More

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Post by tajustice1 »

throwawaygh wrote: post #17
version_five wrote: post #11

If you are trapped there, maybe you have no choice, but why would one willingly visit a place that treats you like that? I have my vaccinations, but I would not spend money anywhere that wanted me to prove it. I go out and spend money to relax and enjoy myself, if businesses start to pretend that I owe them something for the privilege of spending money there, I just won't do it. People lose their minds because its co…

> if businesses start to pretend that I owe them something for the privilege of spending money there, I just won't do it. I've started doing exactly the opposite. Almost every place I spend my money these days caters to reasonable people and quickly kicks out most of the riffraff. I don't want to go to a business that caters to all customers, because being surrounded by annoying people is miserable. I want to spend m…

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Post by mrandolph »

Analemma_ wrote: post #3
anonymouswacker wrote: post #2

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You’re not allowed to walk into public places spraying bullets in every direction, but that is what you are potentially doing when you’re not vaccinated. Piss off with the juvenile freedom argument; freedom stops where your nose does and does not cover fatal contagions.

that's an immense amount of hyperbole for a comment decrying juvenile arguments.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

version_five wrote: post #11

If you are trapped there, maybe you have no choice, but why would one willingly visit a place that treats you like that? I have my vaccinations, but I would not spend money anywhere that wanted me to prove it. I go out and spend money to relax and enjoy myself, if businesses start to pretend that I owe them something for the privilege of spending money there, I just won't do it. People lose their minds because its co…

I understand the emotion behind this because I often feel the same way myself. But these businesses already have other requirements from their customers that everybody seems to accept just fine, so it’s not easy to draw a hard line here. No shoes or shirt? Sorry, not serving you. Underage? Not coming into my bar.
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