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Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

#81

Somewhat of topic but: > Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk Why do people keep thinking Elon founded Tesla? Pretty sure he wasn't one of the founders, so I don't get why people think so.

The founder sued him for it. The result of the lawsuit leaves him as a co-founder legally

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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"Tried to get rid of safety measures" He was annoyed at seeing his line stopped, during a crisis, who wouldn't be? He tried to convince them to start it again, but they didn't. If he then overruled them and actually started the line and actually put anyone in danger that would have been a bad thing. But he didn't, and there's no story here. Just an anecdote of an emotional moment. No one believed they could actually…

Yeah, I don't get this criticism - obviously he could have gotten rid of whatever safety measures he wanted. Maybe people would have quit or there would have been issues with safety inspections down the line, but he clearly could've done it.

Instead, he pushed to try to get rid of them, but ultimately listened to people who had more expertise than him. This is a good thing for a CEO to do - ask hard, big picture questions about the way things are being done, but ultimately accept the answers of the experts you've hired.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Haha that was pretty funny though, an example of playing to his audience in public.

It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo”. That was very public bullying. He says a lot of stupid and hostile stuff. I’m surprised people found his public persona incongruent with the reports of abuse.

>It wasn’t funny to call a guy trying to rescue trapped children a “pedo”

That guy first told Elon to stick his small submarine up his own ass, so maybe he shouldn't have told "a guy trying to rescue trapped children" to sodomize himself with a very large object?

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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post #34

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The waterfall of misinformation: 1) Author fabricates "facts" for his book 2) Tabloids copy those "facts" and add filler to fabricate outrage 3) Twitter outrage specialists pick these "facts" up and retweet 4) Other people form their opinion based on 1), 2), 3)

You don’t need to read fabricated facts if you simply can follow Elon on Twitter. If you put down the rose-tinted glasses, you see that he puts out a lot of dumb stuff and many lies.

Yes, but he is also building a massive friggin reusable rocket and has built rocket boosters that land. He is emotional because he cares about changing the world for the better. He is a weird dude that has a weird sense of humor. Jumping down his throat for bad jokes seems like it actively hinders human kind's progress.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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Yes, the results do speak for themselves: an unprofitable company with a petulant, childish troll as a CEO. Just because you act like Steve Jobs doesn't mean that you are Steve Jobs. You can ask Adam Neumann about that.

FWIW, Tesla isn't unprofitable anymore (even if you remove the EV credits)

How about if you remove their bitcoin and doge earnings.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

#87
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Gates seems pretty normal to me.

He's gone out of his way to cultivate that image.

There was a couple year span on Reddit where you'd see a couple of really positive Bill Gates posts each day. At a glance it seemed organic, but people were always in the comments suggesting it was great PR. Seems like they were probably right.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

#88

Somewhat of topic but: > Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk Why do people keep thinking Elon founded Tesla? Pretty sure he wasn't one of the founders, so I don't get why people think so.

Because he calls himself a founder and Tesla calls him a founder. Basically a Ray Kroc situation.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

#89

Somewhat of topic but: > Tesla co-founder and CEO Elon Musk Why do people keep thinking Elon founded Tesla? Pretty sure he wasn't one of the founders, so I don't get why people think so.

There were two founders originally, Eberhard and Tarpenning. Musk was just a investor.

After Eberhard left he sued Tesla for trying to rewrite history. Then he settled with agreement that Musk and two others (Straubel and Wright) were added to the list of founders. Money solves these things. Now Musk is now officially a Founder.

Re: Tesla CEO berated employees, investors and tried to get rid of safety measures

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I've always found the reports of his behind the scenes behavior and its stark contrast with his public persona to be incredibly disturbing, because it paints a picture of someone with psychopathic tendencies. I suspect there's something really dark with him that originates in his childhood (suffered through horrific bullying and a hellishly awful father).

Anger is a natural human emotion. There's a time and a place for it. If you're in the NFL, on the field. If you're in the NFL of car making, on the factory floor. Tom Brady isn't so polite for 60 minutes on Sundays. Never once in my life have I met a world class performer who doesn't have some "field" where anger and profanity are permitted. If you want to be the best you can be I don't see how you can hit that witho…

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