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My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

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Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#31
Is anybody aware of a similar tool for Windows for doing deeper customization on the Stream Deck? I <3 Hammerspoon on my Macs, and I like my Streamdeck on my Windows PC, would definitely switch from the stock Elgato software to something like HS if I could.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#32
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post is about the Elgato Stream Deck, not the Valve Steam Deck.

Oh, well that's terrible naming then. I totally thought this was a PC gaming console. I wonder if Valve is going to try to fight a trademark in court because it's so similar. This guy better be careful otherwise he could be stuck with huge legal fees depending how popular this gets. Seems early enough in product development that he could change it without problem.

Terrible naming indeed. Valve should have thought about that before naming their new product... but they probably did, and decided they were the bigger fish.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#33
is there a tried-and-tested ipad app anyone can recommend that does what the stream deck does?

stream decks have always interested me, but the price has always seemed a bit steep. compared to their XL model, for ~50$ more (with an educational discount) you can get a base ipad, and unless you really want the tactile feedback, i can’t think how that wouldn’t be a better buy.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#34
post #33

is there a tried-and-tested ipad app anyone can recommend that does what the stream deck does? stream decks have always interested me, but the price has always seemed a bit steep. compared to their XL model, for ~50$ more (with an educational discount) you can get a base ipad, and unless you really want the tactile feedback, i can’t think how that wouldn’t be a better buy.

There is the Stream Deck Mobile app. https://www.elgato.com/en/stream-deck-mobile

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#35
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Optimus Maximus felt like the future of keyboards when I was a kid and it first released. Hold shift and all the letters go from lower-case to upper, hold control/command and the keys change into their modifiers, telling you exactly what it does. Play World of Warcraft and instead of a number row your action bars with appropriate icons is there. I'm a little surprised Elgato hasn't tried. I wonder if the original…

Wikipedia[1] says the patent for this expired in 2016. Interesting enough, it also mentions that Apple filed a similar patent for a "dynamically changing OLED keyboard" in 2007. I wonder if that project was abandoned or eventually morphed into the Touchbar. Personally, I think having the screen(s) be individual keys would be a huge usability improvement over the Touchbar which doesn't have the same tactile feedback.…

I've always been curious as to how many patents exist where the holder actually had no intention of building the thing, for whatever reason, but didn't want anyone else to either.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#36
post #16

I find it hilarious that old keyboards used to have most of these buttons. Gradually people migrated to "60% TKL" keyboards to save space, and now apparrently buy an entire stream deck to replace their missing buttons? I admit it looks cooler though

The advantage I find using a Stream Deck is that it can be configured to use the context of your active window to show a subset of buttons. This unlocks a lot of power in terms in application specific shortcuts / macros that can all be triggered from a small device. I have >100 different buttons but only see the most relevant by default based on what I’m doing.

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Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#37

Stream Decks are super neat, but the official software is complete trash. Rolling your own is basically the only way to win here. I use a library for .NET called StreamDeckSharp which is pretty nice.

What are specific concerns you have? I've been using the Stream Deck software for a couple of years now and other than a few freezes that required me to relaunch the application. I haven't had any issues.

From my experience, almost all the functionality with any sort of smarts is designed solely for it's core audience: If you're using OBS and Twitch I'm sure it's fine, but it's general Windows interaction functionality is extremely primitive.

Then there's third party plugins, but I don't really see any security guarantees on how those are designed, there's not a lot of reason for me to be comfortable with those.

The really basic functionality I wanted that the software couldn't change, was the ability to remain functional when the PC was locked.

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#38
post #11

I notice the author mentions "Nonce Buttons". Just a reminder that "nonce" has a very different meaning in British English, as discovered by Nonce Finance: https://www.indy100.com/viral/nft-company-nonce-finance-prob...

Had a good laugh at this. Thanks

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#39
post #25

With the popularity of these devices, I am surprised no one has taken a swing at producing a new keyboard in the spirit of the old Optimus Maximus[1]. I would love to see how the tech improvements of the last decade and a half could help improve that design. [1] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

It should be noted that there's not much fancy tech in a streamdeck, it's just clever use of pretty old tech.

It's an LCD and touchscreen with a mask and the buttons are optical-grade-ish plastic with a pad that triggers the touchscreen when the button is pressed. Ford uses something similar in some of their center console screens; there's a wiper under a dial glued to the screen.

They do not use individual screens, despite the author's claim (which is common so they can be forgiven for it.)

Re: My Custom Stream Deck Toolkit

#40
post #25

With the popularity of these devices, I am surprised no one has taken a swing at producing a new keyboard in the spirit of the old Optimus Maximus[1]. I would love to see how the tech improvements of the last decade and a half could help improve that design. [1] - https://www.artlebedev.com/optimus/maximus/

It should be noted that there's not much fancy tech in a streamdeck, it's just clever use of pretty old tech. It's an LCD and touchscreen with a mask and the buttons are optical-grade-ish plastic with a pad that triggers the touchscreen when the button is pressed. Ford uses something similar in some of their center console screens; there's a wiper under a dial glued to the screen. They do not use individual screens,…

Interesting, I had no idea they were so simple. That could help explain why they haven't produced bigger devices like a full keyboard. The costs likely don't scale as well when you need a screen the size and shape of a keyboard as opposed to the commoditized screens they are using in the smaller devices.
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