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Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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Finally! Now we can have an air conditioner that does not require a pipe to blow the hot air outside. Like truly mobile unit.

Unfortunately we'll always need the pipe to blow air outside. The heat has to go somewhere. Even with this invention, if they're converting heat to electricity, they will have to release at least as much heat as they converted to electricity.

Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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post #20

Finally! Now we can have an air conditioner that does not require a pipe to blow the hot air outside. Like truly mobile unit.

Unfortunately we'll always need the pipe to blow air outside. The heat has to go somewhere. Even with this invention, if they're converting heat to electricity, they will have to release at least as much heat as they converted to electricity.

Indeed, this can be demonstrated by running current through a plain old Peltier cooler without a big chunky heat sink attached. At first the cooler will have one side heat up and the other side get quite cold, but within a few minutes the entire block becomes evenly warm.

Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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Finally! Now we can have an air conditioner that does not require a pipe to blow the hot air outside. Like truly mobile unit.

That’s thermodynamically impossible.

Why? You could theoretically take out energy from the room in the form of electricity

Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s thermodynamically impossible.

Why? You could theoretically take out energy from the room in the form of electricity

You can’t. The second law of thermodynamics prohibits it.

“It is impossible to devise a cyclically operating device, the sole effect of which is to absorb energy in the form of heat from a single thermal reservoir and to deliver an equivalent amount of work.”

Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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So I can use electricity to mine cryptocurrency and convert the excess heat back to electricity? I wonder how efficient such a thing would be.

Depends entirely on how the system was laid out I guess. If you're in a cold region, say Iceland, and water-cool your miners entirely by running the hot water against a thermoelectric system with the one side out in the snow, maybe 60%?

Re: Cheap material converts heat to electricity

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Current peltier chips are barely a few percent efficient, break easily and require high temperature differentials. They're used in stove-top fans and RTGs. The latter should be Sterling engines to be ignorant mind. I don't doubt there are some interesting things to be accomplished by shaping the flow of heat conduction but I sincerely doubt it'll be energy generation directly. Thermodynamics isn't something you can j…

The history of moving parts in space missions (RTGs) is why Kepler's mission is degraded: keeping reaction wheels and other spinning things lubricated and moving when you can't get in there and service them is hard.
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