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Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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These officers faced BLM hostility on the left, as well as violence against them and accusations of being traitors from the right.

The public that they're supposed to serve was spitting on them and demonizing them from both sides.

Add a pandemic to the mix, and anybody's mental health would be flatlining. Suicide among some of them is tragic but not surprising.

I don't know how effective counseling services are, but if they do anything, they should be made available to the Jan 6 officers.

If anybody reading this is in a dark spot, the suicide lifeline is 800-273-8255, and it's available 24/7.

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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These officers faced BLM hostility on the left, as well as violence against them and accusations of being traitors from the right. The public that they're supposed to serve was spitting on them and demonizing them from both sides. Add a pandemic to the mix, and anybody's mental health would be flatlining. Suicide among some of them is tragic but not surprising. I don't know how effective counseling services are, but…

I think I understand what you mean by “accusations of being traitors from the right”.

However, I was unaware of “BLM hostility on the left”. Could you share some more information about this?

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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Well, yeah, police was endlessly demonized and underfunded in the past decade. There are a few bad apples, but that doesn't justify group guilt and neglect. Rioters should have never been able to attack Capitol OR government buildings in Seattle/Portland. Not saying that Jan 6 was not a bigger threat to the union of those events, although vast majority of rioters were simple hooligans with no credible plans to gain or hold power.

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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These officers faced BLM hostility on the left, as well as violence against them and accusations of being traitors from the right. The public that they're supposed to serve was spitting on them and demonizing them from both sides. Add a pandemic to the mix, and anybody's mental health would be flatlining. Suicide among some of them is tragic but not surprising. I don't know how effective counseling services are, but…

I think I understand what you mean by “accusations of being traitors from the right”. However, I was unaware of “BLM hostility on the left”. Could you share some more information about this?

Police in general were the main target of hate in BLM. Some were murdered in the name of BLM because all of them were seen as complicit in the black killing issues.

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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These officers faced BLM hostility on the left, as well as violence against them and accusations of being traitors from the right. The public that they're supposed to serve was spitting on them and demonizing them from both sides. Add a pandemic to the mix, and anybody's mental health would be flatlining. Suicide among some of them is tragic but not surprising. I don't know how effective counseling services are, but…

I think I understand what you mean by “accusations of being traitors from the right”. However, I was unaware of “BLM hostility on the left”. Could you share some more information about this?

Just one of many lies Capitol Police specifically faced: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-gover...

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I understand what you mean by “accusations of being traitors from the right”. However, I was unaware of “BLM hostility on the left”. Could you share some more information about this?

Just one of many lies Capitol Police specifically faced: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-gover...

totally off topic, but as a European reader I'm getting the following message on that website:

> Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in your country. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to your market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

Come on guys, 3 years after GDPR you could at least change your text from "we are engaged and committed to looking at options" to "we don't really give a s***"!

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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These officers faced BLM hostility on the left, as well as violence against them and accusations of being traitors from the right. The public that they're supposed to serve was spitting on them and demonizing them from both sides. Add a pandemic to the mix, and anybody's mental health would be flatlining. Suicide among some of them is tragic but not surprising. I don't know how effective counseling services are, but…

Some communities have also been disproportionately persecuted by the police for, a very long time. Maybe it's a legacy of slavery and later segregation. Maybe it's a lack of unifying national spirit (the melting pot of cultural assimilation and a desire to be a small spice in a greater whole) which might have just been wishful thinking on the part of history book authors.

I suspect most of the non-anarchist who feel that way would agree with my take that "defund" might be better expressed as RE-form.

Re-form the Police in a de-militarized way. Structure community interaction so they are helpful, rather than penalizing. (E.G. more like Japanese neighborhood branches.) Split out social and mental health crisis, maybe with domestic violence response teams that include a mix of branches. Also, for mental health, make it easier to get interventions earlier, before assault with a deadly weapon leads to regrettable and unavoidably bad sets of outcomes.

Re: Fourth police officer who responded to Jan 6 attack dies by suicide

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just one of many lies Capitol Police specifically faced: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/us-elections-gover...

totally off topic, but as a European reader I'm getting the following message on that website: > Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in your country. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to your market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism. Come…

I agree! Here's a snapshot of the article: https://archive.is/xWaut
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