So you're saying that computer algorithms are classifying based on correlations they've found in the data?
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#12You can't automate justice.Minority report explained it perfectly, yet the decision makers, out of laziness, choose to ignore this.
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#13Combine this with UBI and a monitoring collar (cellphone). Running a society becomes ridiculously easy. Simcity.
It might not be a free society per se, but it might be a very happy one.
(I'm getting that friendly "you are posting too much, wait an unspecified period of time before we'll allow you to post again." thing. It discourages trolls but it also enforces mediocrity and conformity. Just saying.)
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s Fucking hell , man.
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You did not demonstrate enough navel gazing and bemoaning of original sin all non people of color are guilty of. If I knew were you worked I could have you fired.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
You make really good points. Life is bizarre and human culture is extremely contradictory and difficult to quantify. And what's worse our definition of 'fair' maybe advancing just like culture is constantly advancing. African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s when they we're considered less than a full person by the legal system for example. And maybe in the future drug offense…
> African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s Fucking hell , man.
...YIKES.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
You make really good points. Life is bizarre and human culture is extremely contradictory and difficult to quantify. And what's worse our definition of 'fair' maybe advancing just like culture is constantly advancing. African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s when they we're considered less than a full person by the legal system for example. And maybe in the future drug offense…
> African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s Fucking hell , man.
I completely fail to see what's the issue with what OP said, care to explain?
It is completely accurate, algorithms are built by people whom live inmersed on their own temporary and geographically atomized cultures, just look at modern supposed ""unbiased"" algorithms used to ""prevent crime"", it is just racial biases baked in
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> African Americans may have been treated poorly by the algorithm back in the 1700s Fucking hell , man.
I completely fail to see what's the issue with what OP said, care to explain? It is completely accurate, algorithms are built by people whom live inmersed on their own temporary and geographically atomized cultures, just look at modern supposed ""unbiased"" algorithms used to ""prevent crime"", it is just racial biases baked in
I am super confused as well. Lol.
This website is really strange.
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#19It seems the appropriate method to judge this approach is in comparison to the baseline referenced at the start: humans making “black box” judgement calls that are subject to the individual judge’s biases. If the computer programmed decision making were (already is?) transparent, then we could critique it and work to ensure something resembling fair is encoded.
"Something resembling fair", i.e. unfair? We already have that.
Not that the idea of codifying fairness is new; a certain guy named Hammurabi started the trend a while ago.
The result of humanity's collective attempt to create a Transparent Fairness Flowchart still leaves much to be desired.
Replacing codex with code, will, however, streamline the process by entirely removing (the already meager) accountability for bad decisions, as well making it effectively impossible to correct them:
"Computer says no" [1]
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I completely fail to see what's the issue with what OP said, care to explain? It is completely accurate, algorithms are built by people whom live inmersed on their own temporary and geographically atomized cultures, just look at modern supposed ""unbiased"" algorithms used to ""prevent crime"", it is just racial biases baked in
I am super confused as well. Lol. This website is really strange.
I suspect the "may have" is what set people off.