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You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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> Your read is much more benign. I think I wanted to see more in this article. I think the idea of acknowledging this part of us and seeing it as a positive force is not conveyed clearly enough, but it's there. > ‘You aren’t lazy, you just haven’t done the necessary prep and planning to make the thing you want to do feel straightforward’ might be just as useful advice. Yes. This would be a subset of "it's too difficu…

>> ‘You aren’t lazy, you just haven’t done the necessary prep and planning to make the thing you want to do feel straightforward’ might be just as useful advice. > Yes. This would be a subset of "it's too difficult I don’t see how this follows. Recognizing that you haven’t done the prep means it’s not too difficult if you do the prep. If instead of doing the prep you go introspecting for fears and pain you will fail…

> Recognizing that you haven’t done the prep means it’s not too difficult if you do the prep.

I simply say - every part of endeavor may be bringing you down. Your emotions (fears - of failure, of success, what not), your incompetence (including inability to do necessary preparation you mentioned), and so on. Naturally, you have to address those different facets differently - handle the emotion with some introspection, learn to do the prep and planning (skill). Diving 'inside' will obviously not solve the lack of skill or lack of other resources - turning more and more inward would be absolutely wrong way, searching for fears and blowing them up.

Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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>> ‘You aren’t lazy, you just haven’t done the necessary prep and planning to make the thing you want to do feel straightforward’ might be just as useful advice. > Yes. This would be a subset of "it's too difficult I don’t see how this follows. Recognizing that you haven’t done the prep means it’s not too difficult if you do the prep. If instead of doing the prep you go introspecting for fears and pain you will fail…

> Recognizing that you haven’t done the prep means it’s not too difficult if you do the prep. I simply say - every part of endeavor may be bringing you down. Your emotions (fears - of failure, of success, what not), your incompetence (including inability to do necessary preparation you mentioned), and so on. Naturally, you have to address those different facets differently - handle the emotion with some introspection…

> Diving 'inside' will obviously not solve the lack of skill or lack of other resources - turning more and more inward would be absolutely wrong way, searching for fears and blowing them up.

Agreed. This is the issue I am pointing to. Which is why teaching people to view themselves as ‘resistant’ is harmful.

If you are afraid of something, you are afraid of something. If you are ignorant, you are ignorant. If you lack skills then you are unskilled, etc.

There is no point in using the meaningless proxy concept of ‘resistance’, which raises the question “resistant to what?”. In each of these cases there is nothing being ‘resisted’.

Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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Modern brain science cannot effectively treat every mental health problem with drugs and "good doctors" cannot effectively treat every patient. If you are benefitting from treatment by a "good doctor" then I'm happy for you, but this idea that science has a drug that actually works for all problems is far from the truth.

I am benefitting?! I am desperate for a prescription more like. Doesn't matter, soon it might be over.

I'm sorry, I misunderstood your post. I hope you do not hurt yourself. I don't know your circumstances but there are hotlines you can call to talk to someone.

In case you have not seen it, Scott Alexander (a psychiatrist) has a resource on antidepressent supplements here:

https://lorienpsych.com/

also here:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/06/16/things-that-sometimes-...

Wherever you live there are also suicide prevention hotlines you can try calling.

Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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post #138

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Modern brain science cannot effectively treat every mental health problem with drugs and "good doctors" cannot effectively treat every patient. If you are benefitting from treatment by a "good doctor" then I'm happy for you, but this idea that science has a drug that actually works for all problems is far from the truth.

I am benefitting?! I am desperate for a prescription more like. Doesn't matter, soon it might be over.

Oh, just wanted to add I don't know anything about your healthcare system but in America a family doctor can prescribe antidepressants. In my experience they have no problem giving you a prescription you had before from a psychiatrist. I noticed you said in another post you can't find a psychiatrist. I'd try the family doctor route if you haven't already.

Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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Unexplained underachievement.

I don't think looking at outcomes is a fair assessment at all. I academically excelled, have a successful career, an early employee IPO exit, and a spate of really interesting side projects. Yet I struggle with leading a normal life, prioritizing, sporadic and extreme hyper-focus, and frequent loss of interest. (If something doesn't interest me, I just won't do it. I have to pay people to do taxes, and I sometimes wi…

Without ADHD you would probably have an even more accomplished career. I remember a study that showed that the higher the IQ the older you are on average when diagnosed with ADHD, also high IQ masks some of the executive dysfunction. Anyways, as you said, you have a problem with intention, and this is precisely what can lead to underachievement compared to your peers without ADHD. Hyperfocus is really Perseveration, which might have some superficial benefits but the inability to switch from an interesting task to a boring one that has a delayed reward / penalty (i.e taxes) is usually a net negative in life and can have catastrophic consequences in your life.

Re: You Are Not Lazy or Undisciplined. You Have Internal Resistance

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I don't think looking at outcomes is a fair assessment at all. I academically excelled, have a successful career, an early employee IPO exit, and a spate of really interesting side projects. Yet I struggle with leading a normal life, prioritizing, sporadic and extreme hyper-focus, and frequent loss of interest. (If something doesn't interest me, I just won't do it. I have to pay people to do taxes, and I sometimes wi…

Yea I agree. I am actually reasonably accomplished in my life and career but I procrastinate like hell and there are times when I am just not doing anything. Perfect example is today. Been browsing HN so far when I have a few tasks to complete for my business. My own business where I know this will be make an impact but I am just not doing it.

See the point is that you can be reasonably accomplished thanks to your talents, interests and intelligence, but let's take the very same you and remove some of the procrastination. It is reasonable to expect that it would be an even more accomplished version of you (even though you might pick up some tangentially interesting stuff that might be useful when browsing HN). To people who do not understand ADHD, your behaviour will be looked at through the lense of "if they just applied themselves...", "they are really smart but just so lazy...". That's what I mean by "unexplained underachievement". It is a useful signal for caretakers. If Johnny is so smart, then why does he end up doing everything at the last minute, inviting stress in his life that will probably shorten his lifespan by 5 years?
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