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Life before smartphones (2020)

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Now I feel old. I remember vividly running around with my first camera, looking for objects worthy of being photographed. The film cost money, so did developing it into pictures. I really had to weigh the pros and cons of taking a particular picture. And in a class of ~25 kids, I was one of three who owned a camera. Not that it was such a luxury item, but most people weren't into that. These days, (nearly) everyone c…

And he doesn't even mention that you could just be outside, and be unreachable and not able to reach other people too.

As a kid I used to play outside a lot, and my mother had no clue where I was, nor could she easily find out. I could be outside all day without her worrying that I'd be abducted or involved in an accident.

Now that all has completely changed, and my mother has too. Some years ago when I walked into the hallway of my house I coincidentally noticed a lot of people in front of my door. So I opened it, and it was the police that was about to bust the door with a battering ram. As it happened I hadn't answered my phone in a couple of hours. After multiple calls unanswered, my mom had called 911 on me. And my doorbell was broken, police didn't even knock.. they wanted the action, probably.

I was just freaking programming with the deep-work-destroying phone thingy on silence (where it should be most of the time, imho).

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Not really to do with Smartphone, but before the Smartphone era, having a phone call is pretty damn nice. Now it is all robocalls. I dont even remember the last time I had a real person calling me. The people I know, or even those I dont such as job agents, will leave a whatsapp message.

I also used to think having a decent digital Camera on a phone would be insanely great. It turns out not so, at least not any more. Every single god damn digital photo are now either some stupid "computational" photography enhanced, some are enhanced with AI or whatever Machine Learning. Apple used to be on the realistic camp but now even they are joining the profile of instagram generation. ( I have been told customer want these sort of features as they think it is better photo, and sell better ) And if that is not enough most of them are posted with some editing or filters. To the point nothing in the photo I saw is real.

I remember dreaming about online MMO on a phone. That was UO / World of Warcraft era. May be in ten to fifteen years time a Pocket Computer with Wireless Network. That would be so much fun. But gaming now has becomes a casino with lots of gambling options to win the game. It is also time sink for many of us to escape into the "metaverse". ( Metaverse is the new VC hype of 2021 ). They are no longer the same.

I remember I really really wanted IRC, ICQ and later MSN on a Smartphone. It didn't work. I have to hack an O2 Atom ( made by HTC before they become a brand of itself they used to be a ODM like Foxconn ) and it was a battery drain. Now it is largely replaced by all sort of instant messenger. But we dont give ICQ numbers or your MSN handle to anyone anymore. It is all "phone" numbers. So it is more of a "real world" connection rather than some "Internet identity" we used to have.

Speaking of O2 Atom, I have been looking for a smartphone, or a pocket computer that uses 2G GPRS as Data Connection and slowly browse the Internet on the street. So I could sit in a Cafe and use some remote server that will send me the .MHT version of a website so I only use one connection. ( Multiple connection on GPRS are bound to fail ). iPhone was everything I wanted I remember vividly how Apple nailed it. From capacitive Touch Screen to all the small UX. Most people didn't get it. As it wasn't the first "Smartphone", you have Nokia Symbian and something like the Sony Ericsson P900 at the time. Most people were like Steve Ballmer and laughing at it. But for those who were looking for it for so long. iPhone was "it".

I would have thought with Smartphone, people would listen to even more music, as it replaces mp3, or MiniDisc. Where we curate our own collection very carefully to try and fit in how tiny amount of storage we had. Turns out people are consuming more Video and other forms of Media. Music isn't "dead", but it certainly didn't bloom like many expected. From a high level prospective, all forms of media are competing for your attention and time.

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I didn't see it mentioned, so I'll add it for completeness. One of the differences between pre-smartphone and the post-smartphone world is the pervasive and unlimited availability of adult content. Pornography used to be really hard to get. Now it is unlimited and free. There are now more than 1 million content creators on OnlyFans. The democratization, if you want to call it that, of adult content to me seems to me like something out of gonzo sci-fi

Music is also now almost free and unlimited. Local music died in the early 90s when the telecommunications act was passed and all the local stations got bought and consolidated into national syndicates. Local DJs didn't find bands anymore. There was a real rough spot when the mainstream was dull and it was very hard to find out about alternative music. Later, the internet and Youtube leveled the playing field between the mainstream and everything else and things got better.

Re: Life before smartphones (2020)

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A couple of things not mentioned: * Half of the population watching the same episodes of the same programme simultaneously. If you missed an episode, it was gone forever * Inane arguments in pubs about facts that couldn't be instantly googled.

> If you missed an episode, it was gone forever

I set VHS recorder just in case.

Re: Life before smartphones (2020)

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Yeah I remember waiting for people - I got a smartphone at 16, in 2004, something like that, so it's hard to really imagine how it was for adults... My parents told me they spend evenings at the phone booth talking to each other - but even that is ultra convenient compared to my grandparents sending letters :D But I think it's better anyway - we sample mating candidates more, we cycle through faster, we can stop and…

> But I think it's better anyway - we sample mating candidates more, we cycle through faster, we can stop and try anew nearly any time until 50, and with some difficulty above. On the other side, we self report more isolated, depressed, friendless and dissatisfied than ever in the past decades, have record levels of depression prescriptions and opioids, and people get discovered dead after a month or so when somebody…

How reliable are self reported results across years or even generations of confounding changes?

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I (legally) smoked on a plane!

smoking on a plane sounds like simultaneously the most wonderful and most terrible thing ever similarly it was amazing to smoke in bars, but it's great to not have smoke filled bars

Oh boy. Was on a school trip to Greece in the mid nineties. ~35 teenagers and some teachers as guides and chaperones.

We were 16+ so basically drinking free booze on the plane while smoking our hearts out. We actually drank all the beer on the plane. It looked like a smoke bomb went off.

It must have been the flight from hell for other passengers. Completely unimaginable right now. Thank you Sabena Airlines for this core memory of my youth and not having us arrested in Athens.

Re: Life before smartphones (2020)

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Tried it, hated it. Everyone is using WhatsApp, Telegram, whatever. Try typing a sms with those tiny buttons, it sucks. There is a reason why some people have a smartphone but not a computer.

Pretty sure the person you are responding to was not suggesting continuing to use WhatsApp, Telegram, whatever. Getting off those was kind of the point.

Yes, that's why the OP laments that "everyone else is using WhatsApp, Telegram, etc".

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Now I feel old. I remember vividly running around with my first camera, looking for objects worthy of being photographed. The film cost money, so did developing it into pictures. I really had to weigh the pros and cons of taking a particular picture. And in a class of ~25 kids, I was one of three who owned a camera. Not that it was such a luxury item, but most people weren't into that. These days, (nearly) everyone c…

And he doesn't even mention that you could just be outside, and be unreachable and not able to reach other people too. As a kid I used to play outside a lot, and my mother had no clue where I was, nor could she easily find out. I could be outside all day without her worrying that I'd be abducted or involved in an accident. Now that all has completely changed, and my mother has too. Some years ago when I walked into t…

That's terrifying, I'm sorry that happened to you.

Something I have done (accidentally at first, now on purpose) is to not respond to messages (personal) quickly, most of the time. People adjust to that rather fast and stop worrying so much. People in my circles know now that I am rarely going to answer within a few hours and expectations are adjusted. So then going outside for a few hours with no phone is no longer a "thing" - you just do it and people will expect you to get back to them when you do.

Re: Life before smartphones (2020)

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Not really to do with Smartphone, but before the Smartphone era, having a phone call is pretty damn nice. Now it is all robocalls. I dont even remember the last time I had a real person calling me. The people I know, or even those I dont such as job agents, will leave a whatsapp message. I also used to think having a decent digital Camera on a phone would be insanely great. It turns out not so, at least not any more.…

Computational photography (what you call "some are enhanced with AI or whatever Machine Learning") is a perfectly legitimate evolution in the field of consumer photography. I'm not sure why you are so critical of it.
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