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Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by vanderZwan »

cdelsolar wrote: post #82
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #48

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Nearly nobody under the age of 35 is aware that popcorn used to taste like corn. Not like modern ears of corn, which are bred mostly for sweetness; more like tortilla chips, whose corn is still (somehow) cultivated for corn flavor. Corny. [edit] … also I’m baffled by how, every time I “hold the tomatoes” on my burger or salad, someone will invariably say “don’t you like tomatoes?” and I have to go on this dumb rant a…

I always thought tomatoes were pretty good and then I had tomatoes in Europe.

I guess that means you had them in a Mediterranean country, because elsewhere in Europe they still are rather bland in my (northern European) opinion

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by dagw »

cdelsolar wrote: post #82
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly nobody under the age of 35 is aware that popcorn used to taste like corn. Not like modern ears of corn, which are bred mostly for sweetness; more like tortilla chips, whose corn is still (somehow) cultivated for corn flavor. Corny. [edit] … also I’m baffled by how, every time I “hold the tomatoes” on my burger or salad, someone will invariably say “don’t you like tomatoes?” and I have to go on this dumb rant a…

I always thought tomatoes were pretty good and then I had tomatoes in Europe.

Where the 'European' ones better or worse?

As a norther European, I've always found the tomatoes in the US far better than what I normally get.

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by dagw »

phkahler wrote: post #88
jfengel wrote: post #78

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San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy, so if you get Italian San Marzano's they're legally limited in ways that promote quality. Unfortunately, there is a large black market in mis-labeled San Marzanos, so it's not a full guarantee of quality. But it's something that they're at least working on, rather than just giving up.

>> San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy What does that mean? Protected under what laws?

Protected under what laws?

Protected under EU law. Only tomatoes of a specific type AND from the specific region can use the name "San Marzanos".

Outside the EU I don't think there is anything stopping yoou from labling any random tomato as "San Marzano".

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by KineticLensman »

phkahler wrote: post #88
jfengel wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy, so if you get Italian San Marzano's they're legally limited in ways that promote quality. Unfortunately, there is a large black market in mis-labeled San Marzanos, so it's not a full guarantee of quality. But it's something that they're at least working on, rather than just giving up.

>> San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy What does that mean? Protected under what laws?

It's a regulation [0] that says that products that are associated with a specific geographic location cannot be manufactured elsewhere and then passed off as the original.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_designation_of_origi...

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by rsynnott »

jhgb wrote: post #42

Does this apply only to the US-grown apples, or is this a global problem? > When you picture an apple, you probably picture a Red Delicious Actually, I picture a Granny Smith. ;)

Applies in Ireland; we don’t have the red delicious, but we do have the “golden delicious” (if consumer protection law had any teeth, these would be called “yellowish horrible” instead) and Gala and other Bad Apples.

I think it may apply less in continental Europe.

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by oakesm9 »

phkahler wrote: post #88
jfengel wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy, so if you get Italian San Marzano's they're legally limited in ways that promote quality. Unfortunately, there is a large black market in mis-labeled San Marzanos, so it's not a full guarantee of quality. But it's something that they're at least working on, rather than just giving up.

>> San Marzanos are origin-protected in Italy What does that mean? Protected under what laws?

The EU is the main place that has these laws sorts of laws. I beleive that they will include it in trade deals so that it is enforceable in more of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_t...

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by rsynnott »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #19
mark-r wrote: post #5

The Red Delicious stands out to me as the textbook example of the power of naming and marketing. The origin story is unbeatable. The power of a name on our perceptions is undeniable. Realizing all of this has been one of the most empowering discoveries of my adult life.

> The Red Delicious stands out to me as the textbook example of the power of naming and marketing. The origin story is unbeatable. The power of a name on our perceptions is undeniable. Eh.... the Red Delicious's twin in naming is the Golden Delicious. Golden is a more prestigious description than red by any standard, and they're both "delicious". If you want to credit naming and marketing with the success of the Red…

The golden delicious, an awful, irredeemable apple, is very common in the UK and Ireland, much more so that the red delicious.

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by namelessoracle »

evgen wrote: post #81
throwawayboise wrote: post #56

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The local supermarket sells whole roasted chickens that you can buy hot and ready to eat. The ones that don't sell are deboned and shredded and used for chicken salad, barbeque "pulled" chicken, etc.

And these roasted chickens were previously on the shelves as raw whole chicken that was pulled and cooked when they hit their “sell by” date.

No. Maybe at Whole Foods? But at Publix/Kroger the chickens were in a separate fridge that customers never got to buy from or access and the chickens went straight from the truck into that fridge.

I say this as someone who worked Deli at Publix/Kroger and made those rotisserie chickens.

The unused chickens would get used for chicken salads and stuff like that, but we also threw alot of them away too. Everything the deli used at Publix was used just for the deli, at no point did we take stuff about to expire and use it for our stuff except for bread that had only a couple of days left from the bakery. We had our fridge and supply section and the grocery had their own section and the two rarely met.

Re: Red delicious apples weren’t always horrible

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Post by watwut »

dnzkw wrote: post #89
titzer wrote: post #74

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Just move to Europe.

Sorry to tell you tomatoes are flavourless in Europe as well.

Yep. You have to grow own tomatoes to have good ones. Which is something only few people are willing and have option to do.
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