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Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Just to be fair and balanced I'm a hardcore linux user and gamer and I've tried gaming on linux and I've hit many issues. 365 games on steam and while some windows games work I've hit probably just about every possible issue you can hit with other games. Graphical artifacts, freezing, stuttering, and even full OS reboots. Sometimes I read this thread and scratch my head. I get enthusiasm for FOSS, but enthusiasm to t…

No one is claiming all Windows games work yet. Why would you assume they did?

https://www.protondb.com

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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For this kind of situations xkill is marvelous. I've used Windows xKill [1] for years, but I can't find a download link for which you don't have to sign in... Alternatively, SuperF4 [2] looks decent, also with a separate CLI only xkill found in the github issues [3]. [1] https://www.deviantart.com/suprvillain/art/Windows-xKill-100... [2] https://stefansundin.github.io/superf4/ [3] https://github.com/stefansundin/supe…

Many tiling wm offer something like that out of the box (and KDE among the mainstream desktop managers)

Worst case, on most Linux setups just C-A-Fnum to a TTY, log back in, and `kill -9` the offending PID from the command line.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Same here. Switched 2 months ago after using WSL all the time & being annoyed over many things, including "failing updates" on windows. Did a dualboot but haven't used windows since. Game to add to your list: - CS:GO

well, strictly speaking CSGO isn’t using proton, it’s a native port, which is why i didn’t count it. but i play that, too. probably too much..

FWIW I get about 10 more FPS in Ubuntu vs Win10 for CS:GO.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

Interesting question on how to create same level of protection. On Windows I think the general idea for a bypass is find a vulnerable signed driver and exploit that, but Linux doesn't have the same paradigm for kernel modules as the Microsoft-signs-everything approach on Windows.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Yes, and the ones that don't have crazy requirements already work fine. Unfortunately a lot of people don't care about running malware (see: the % of people who still use Windows). Lots of those people would be more likely to switch if they could run their malware on GNU/Linux.

How does the anti-cheat malware suddenly stop being malware when run under Linux?

It doesn't. User freedom means freedom to run malware, just as all choice implies the option to make a bad decision. In this case, it might increase adoption and so be a bad means to a good end.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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post #74

A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

I really hope the work Valve is doing with Proton will help to get Office (no, the browser versions aren't a substitute), Adobe software and Touchdesigner working on Linux. I don't game, and would love to switch to Linux but I need those apps to work on it.

Microsoft could at least stop actively trying to break O365 on Wine, which I believe it is doing. I have heard rumors (albeit unsourced ones) that MS is trying to bring Outlook over first.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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The trade-off is that you have literal malware on the machine that is controlled by a third party company that most likely doesn't have their security practices up to snuff.

Sure it sucks but ultimately it's the user's decision and Proton will allow the porting of other Windows apps. If you can use it to run a AAA game it could easily handle business apps. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone say they'd switch to Linux but can't because it doesn't run [ insert some Windows app here ]. It's a net gain for Linux adoption.

This is sadly not true, since buisness apps use a much wider variety of windows APIs while games are mostly using a few (DirectX, OpenGL, Vulcan) APIs for most of what they do. You can see this with custom game launchers like League of Legends uses. The Game runs with basically native performance and without issues but the launcher is barely usable.

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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Steam has defiantly been putting in the work promoting Linux based developers and developing Proton (their wine package). Over the last year I've played a half dozen AAA games on Linux through steam, all of them working near perfectly. I'm surprised the Linux market share isn't higher than 1%, giving the resources they seem to be dedicating to Linux.

They're now introducing Linux based hardware, which looks set to be super-popular, called the Steam Deck. So they're definitely using the Linux work in their own products. That should give the numbers a boost.

Steam Deck looks like a Wii form-factor device but they had already been collaborating with Alienware and others on the release of console style devices for a few years running SteamOS (based on debian).

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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I don't understand why people insist on this shoehorning either. It's like some obscene tribal topos that refuses to die. KDE 1.0 came out in 1998 - 23 years ago (O god I'm old). The discussion of "Linux to replace windows desktop" is over two decades old. In computer age this is something geological. It's like... well, Macintosh came out in 1984. Xerox Alto came 1973. If we go back 5 years we reach Englebart's Mothe…

We don't collectively own engineers time, we are not under full blown socialism, yet and people are free to do what they want. If individuals enjoy reverse engineering windows and making it work on Linux, that's great, actually I really need that. I wouldn't spend my time on it, but I'm sure I have equally suboptimal hobbies (from a "civilisation" point of view). You don't get to spend someone else engineering effort…

There isn't any scenario under 'full blown socialism' where society collectively owns engineers' time, either. You may be thinking of Communism?

Re: Steam survey shows Linux marketshare hitting 1.0%

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post #74

A headline in Linux gaming circles that hasn't hit the wider circuit yet (probably because it hasn't actually been delivered yet) is that Valve are working with Battleye and EAC to get anti-cheat working on Proton for the release of the steam deck. If this happens it will be, without exaggeration, the greatest thing to ever happen to Linux gaming. I'm not expecting a massive increase overnight, but it should mean tha…

I really hope the work Valve is doing with Proton will help to get Office (no, the browser versions aren't a substitute), Adobe software and Touchdesigner working on Linux. I don't game, and would love to switch to Linux but I need those apps to work on it.

I think that's quite unlikely, most games use a fairly small subset of the Windows APIs, if non-game applications currently don't work then it's unlikely that the situation for those applications will be improved by better game compatibility.
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